[pure-silver] Re: Under exposed frame
- From: "Tim Rudman" <ps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:23:26 -0000
I agree that Flashing will not help the flat tones in the ladies face. He is
going to have to push up contrast here and this might give problems with the
highlights on the children's faces and the girl's shoulder, which flashing
would make much more manageable if he needs to burn them in without it
showing too much in the lower tones there. They look fairly burnt out on the
first pic posted - can't see the neg of course, but the higher res scan
shows lots of usable tone in the boy's face, the girl's would be pretty
vulnerable to raising contrast though, risk of unsightly black mid tones in
the face with local burning in.
I would try flashing selectively to the right half of the print, or on a
diagonal from middle top to bottom right.
Tim
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Sent: 03 January 2005 17:23
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Under exposed frame
By all means, try flashing, but as suggested elsewhere, it will reduce
highlight contrast. That's not you want.
Regards
Ralph W. Lambrecht
On 1/3/05 4:41 PM, "Justin F. Knotzke" <jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> <quote who=Gene Johnson date=[03/01/05 09:36 AM]/>
>> I could print this pretty much straight up. The exposure's not that
>> bad and it's a nice scene. Your highlights and mids look fine. The
>> "problem" shadow areas are a black dress in shadow and the inside of a
fireplace in shadow.
>> I don't think there's much in those areas to get no matter what you
>> do. For me, the hardest part is the face of the woman on the left.
>> Pre-flashing might help get more detail there, but it might have an
>> unwanted affect on your highlights. i might dodge that area a
>> "little". Not much more than about 20% of the overall exposure time
>> or it will get even muddier than it already is. That alone might be
>> enough depending on how fussy you want to be.
>
> I find my scanner always seems to scan at a much higher exposure
> rate then I would like. I almost always have to crank down the
> exposure to .5 or .3 on vuescan. Otherwise, everything is just too bright.
>
> But it amazes me that the scanner can pick this up no problem. Yet
> on a properly exposed contact print, any prints and even looking
> through a loupe, I can't really make out too much detail: everything
> is just too dark.
>
> Also sorry to all if I confused everyone's approaches. As you can
> see I am rather new to anything other then a straight print. Straight
> printing I could do nothing with this frame. Everything was way too
> dark. If I printed it lighter, I couldn't get any blacks. I felt like
> I had no play in the print.
>
> I don't much care for the girl on the left (my sister) I mean.. in
> the print, my sister is pretty cool.. ;-) I am mostly concerned with
> getting the middle girl's eyes. That's the frame for me. Then if I can
> get the highlights in the girl on the right's hair, I am off to the races.
>
> But trying to get the girl in the middle properly exposed, her hair
> comes out gray when really it's black. If I try to get her hair a
> convincing black, her face is too dark.
>
> So I am going to try flashing the paper and if that doesn't work
> try split printing as suggested here (not really the method I
> originally proposed).
>
> Thanks again to everyone,
>
> J
>
>
>
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