It may be this thread raised so much interest because Justin showed us the image he was having trouble with.. much easier to relate to than a paragraph of words. This brings me back to some of the discussions we've had over the past couple days regarding a pure-silver gallerie (which Ryuji offered to help with). We may not be able to solve Justin's problem, but I for one learned alot about contrast, preflashing, split-printing (or not), and masking as ways to salvage a negative. I hope we see more visual examples in the future, whether via a pure-silver gallery, apug posting, or whatever. J.R. Stewart Leesburg, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "DarkroomMagic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "PureSilverNew" <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Under exposed frame > We should have more of these hands-on questions here. Puts all of this > theoretical talk into perspective. > > > > > > Regards > > > > Ralph W. Lambrecht > > > > > On 1/3/05 5:06 PM, "Justin F. Knotzke" <jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> <quote who=Ryuji Suzuki date=[03/01/05 09:09 AM]/> >> >>> Flashing the paper can only reduce highlight contrast. I don't think >>> you want that, unless your base exposure requires very high contrast >>> to render the main subjects with natural contrast, and it makes >>> highlight too hard. This part is hard to tell because you didn't show >>> the raw image, or explain the details of your photoshop >>> manipulation. So I'm just giving one possibility. >> >> Ryuji, >> >> Thanks for the reply. >> >> I posted a full rez jpeg in a earlier post if you want to look at it. >> >> As stated, the problem is the prints are too dark. I have to really >> stop the lens down and use very low times in order to get anything other >> then complete black. When I do get real blacks.. say in the middle >> girl's hair, the rest of the image is also near black with only the girl >> on the right coming out with any detail. >> >> If I print for her eyes then I can't get any real blacks. >> >> That's essentially the problem in a nutshell. >> >> I have saved everyone's responses and I am going to try them all >> and give a detailed description of what worked (hopefully) and what >> didn't work. >> >> Anyhow, the goal is more to learn different techniques then it is >> to get the print. But getting the print would be nice. >> >> I understand everyone has different ways of doing things and I >> really don't want to stir up any arguments.. But I will definitely try >> your method and I'll let you know how it comes out. >> >> >> Thanks Ryuji, >> >> J >> >> > > ============================================================================================================= > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.