[pure-silver] Re: Under exposed frame
- From: "Gene Johnson" <genej2@xxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 08:02:14 -0800
I don't disagree with anything here. Just depends on how far he's willing
to go. Tim has an excellent example of the use of flashing in his Master
Printer's Course book. I've used it to good effect on a few occasions. Pre
flashing, that is. I'm going to wear the book right out one of these days.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Champagne" <app@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 7:42 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Under exposed frame
> Gene,
> The neg has full textural detail in the woman on the left of the image.
The problem is that in the exposure they were on zones 2,3,4 instead of
4,5,6 or thereabouts. The only way I know of to get those to print where
they will look best is to give them less print exposure. Doing that will
push the other areas of the print off the highlight scale so burning them in
(which would be very difficult) or preflashing will bring them back without
affecting the low to mid tones.
>
> Incidentally preflashing is not the same as printing with a softer filter.
Preflashing a print is equivalent to using a compensating developer (or pmk)
to develop a negative. i.e. it affects primarily the highlights with little
or no effect on the mid tones and shadows even if it is done to the whole
sheet of paper.
>
> Personally I suspect that normal contrast (grade 2 or 3) should be OK for
the main exposure and preflashing should bring the highlight detail in. If
whites are not required in the hightlights then slightly overdoing the
preflash to give a very slight veil to the highlights may give even more
highlight detail but may make them look a little flat.
>
> Combining the other method using grade 0 and 5 a la tim rudman and others
with the prelash should also work. Its just another way of getting to the
same point.
>
> rob
>
> At 03/01/2005 06:36 -0800, you wrote:
> >I could print this pretty much straight up. The exposure's not that bad
and
> >it's a nice scene. Your highlights and mids look fine. The "problem"
shadow
> >areas are a black dress in shadow and the inside of a fireplace in
shadow.
> >I don't think there's much in those areas to get no matter what you do.
For
> >me, the hardest part is the face of the woman on the left. Pre-flashing
> >might help get more detail there, but it might have an unwanted affect on
> >your highlights. i might dodge that area a "little". Not much more than
> >about 20% of the overall exposure time or it will get even muddier than
it
> >already is. That alone might be enough depending on how fussy you want
to
> >be.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Justin F. Knotzke" <jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 6:09 AM
> >Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Under exposed frame
> >
> >
> >> <quote who=Rob Champagne date=[02/01/05 07:50 PM]/>
> >> > Playing around with the image in photoshop shows full textural detail
> >throughout the image. I think he meant it is overexposed and such the
> >negative is very high contrast.
> >> > Selective pre flashing should bring the highlight detail in withou
> >overexposing the shadows.
> >>
> >> Quickly, because I have to get to the office but some have asked
for
> >> a full rez scan.
> >>
> >> http://www.shampoo.ca/pics/crop0006.jpg
> >>
> >> That's 10 megs. I use Vuescan and I set the exposure to 1.
> >>
> >> Ok, gotta run.
> >>
> >> J
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Justin F. Knotzke
> >> jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> http://www.shampoo.ca
> >>
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