Hello, I agree with Tim preflashing and split gradinf with 5 end 00 filters will allow you to get details in shadows and hightlights. I use this quite often for difficult prints. Daniel > De=A0: "Tim Rudman" <ps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > R=E9pondre =E0=A0: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date=A0: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 13:47:07 -0000 > =C0=A0: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Objet=A0: [pure-silver] Re: Under exposed frame >=20 > There is no reason why you can't combine the 2 techniques Justine - split > grading and preflashing. The flashing will allow the paper to respond mor= e > readily to the G.00 exposure (and also will lower the contrast). >=20 > It is very easy to work out how much to flash - you don't have to guess. > I'll send you off list a step by step guide that I use in workshops. It w= ill > come as a Word attachment which is quite safe to open. >=20 > Alternatively, you could make a 'Lith print' ;-) > This will print high contrast in the shadows and low contrast in the > highlights. > It will be a warm colour but can be changed in selenium or gold, but not = so > easily to neutral B&W - but you might find you like it as much (or more) >=20 > Tim >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Justin F. Knotzke > Sent: 03 January 2005 13:29 > To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Under exposed frame >=20 > <quote who=3DJ.R. Stewart date=3D[02/01/05 10:54 PM]/> >> I bet that works Rob. Preflashing has saved me a couple times. It's >> not a common procedure. Justin will have to determine the amount of >> flash that produces the least amount of fog using non-image forming >> light, then half that to preflash the paper-- as a reference point, my >> preflash exposure is about 3 seconds with my 135 mm lens stopped down >> to f45 and about 25 inches away from the base board. A simple test strip > should work, Justin. >=20 > The image is definitely underexposed. The camera metered the scene at > F2.8 400ISO 1/5 and I shot it at F2.8 400ISO 1/30. >=20 > So no question, that is underexposed. >=20 > I am going to take one more stab at this before going the digital > route. >=20 > My plan, after having read your kind posts and talking with some > friends is to: >=20 > 1) Make a test strip using 5 filter to get blacks and note the time. > 2) Expose the paper with this time and then make a second exposure/test > strip to get highlights. >=20 > I will stop the lens down as much as possible and then go from there. >=20 > If that fails, I am going to try to pre-flash (which I have never > done). If that fails, I'll go digital *sigh*. >=20 > Thanks again, >=20 > J >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Justin F. Knotzke > jknotzke@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.shampoo.ca > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you > subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your > account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscri= bed,) > and unsubscribe from there. >=20 ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.