--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "blroadies" <blroadies@...> wrote: > > > --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Stuart W. Mirsky" <SWMirsky@> wrote: > > > > In what way is having a mental life different from having a life? > > > It refers to having subjective (private) experience. > > In the spirit of fairness. I want to draw your attention to a Post I > just wrote to Glen in which tried to express what I believe you are > saying here, namely, that as a non-dualist you are not rejecting > subjectivity, mind, "inner experience" but, if I get it right, you are > placing all that as causal end-product of brain activity. > > bruce > Yes, that's about right though I might have expressed it differently. To be a dualist is to suppose there are at least two ontological basics in the universe, typically mind and matter, and that neither is explainable as reducible to the other. My view, as you rightly note, is that what we call mind, what we call consciousness, IS explainable by reduction to what brains do. Thus I would say that mind is a function of the physical as much as everything else in a wholly physical universe. Although some want to call this monist (the opposite of dualist), I demur because I don't see a lot of value in arguing or even theorizing about such metaphysical positions. I don't deny we have metaphysical positions, just the efficacy of debating them. I hold to a default physical monism but not to any fully articulated or elaborated theory of this, nor do I think one can argue that that is (or isn't) the way things are because I think all such arguments are beyond provability. Recognizing that we mean something different by "minds" and "brains" is not dualism, on my view, nor does it preclude an argument for reduction of one to the other. SWM