So.......how did you end up fixing the problem, what was the trick? > Apparently, HP.com outsources tech support > to people who don’t know English very well. HA!! They all do!! I have to go through that BS all the time! That's precisely why I contact manufacturers ONLY as a last resort! They know that, they do it on purpose, that's why they do it. They don't want to be contacted. This is the same way either via email or telephone. The phone is even worse; in the unlikely event anyone will ever answer, they can't understand nor speak English. At least in email, you don't have to hear them and can read it, although rarely making any sense. That infuriates the hell out of me. There's homeless people all over the USA that would kill for a job, especially all the homeless vets, they could easily be trained for support. But they'd all rather out-source it to other countries! -Clint God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://www.OrpheusComputing.com http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Grossman" Exhilaration. That's the feeling when you've been working on resolving a setup problem in a simple, cheapo all-in-one printer for nearly a week, and you FINALLY get it to work. I hope I'll be able to help some others on the group one day. Hey - stop laughing. Granted, I'm certainly not an expert like you guys, but you can never tell when I may have some unique knowledge or experience. Let me give you my take on HP.com support: At the end of the day, they only helped with two things - the Microsoft uninstaller (which didn't work very well) and the XML parser. All of the other issues were solved only by using the sage advice of you wonderful people at PC Works. I do not believe that my support techie, "Diana," is a real person or only one person. Apparently, HP.com outsources tech support to people who don’t know English very well. Each time the issue is returned to them for assistance somebody else seems to have handled it. That would explain the many stupid inconsistencies, omissions, repetitions, and corrections. Perhaps they have a system (called Diana?) that scans the first lines of a request for tech support and then it shoots out a boilerplate response. That would explain the fact that it could send out the same frustrating response over and over again, even though it didn't work the first times. HP.com boasts 24/7 support. They never claim that it is human support. My warm thanks to you guys again. David Grossman ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-