Tom Barry wrote: > This is usually not true, at least most places. In Jax I rented > the HD STB from Comcast without subscribing to digital cable. > Here in Gainesville on Cox I also take advantage of the Cox > network HD shows using limited basic and my QAM cable ready PC > and/or TV. I'm not even sure the cable companies are allowed to > require digital TV subscriptions for the HD versions of the OTA > networks. As far as I've been able to determine, the ONLY requirement cable companies have is that they have to provide the OTA channels in their basic tier, and that they have to make these available to their analog subscribers through 2012. This can be either via an analog tier, or via a converter box of their own (i.e. not like the CECB, and you get no govt assistance for the cable converter). I have not been able to find where cable companies MUST provide certain channels as clear QAM, let alone HD as clear QAM. Although our local cable companies do offer the local stations, HD and multicasts, as clear QAM. They probably do this to reduce the number of STBs they have to make available for basic tier customers? Here's what the FCC has to say: http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/dtvcable.html "... If your cable company decides to move some or all of the channels it provides onto a digital service tier, it may notify you that you need to get 'digital cable' equipment to continue receiving that cable service. This may include renting or purchasing a digital cable set-top box or purchasing a digital cable ready TV equipped with a 'CableCARD' slot. This digital cable equipment is different from the digital-to-analog converter boxes discussed above, and digital cable equipment is not eligible for the $40 coupons. If you have a digital TV, you may be able to view broadcast stations through your cable system without additional equipment. You should ask your cable company about the equipment options that may be available to you, including any options to purchase equipment from a retailer if you do not wish to rent equipment from your cable company." Sounds to me like all of this clear QAM stuff is purely voluntary. Notice the "may" in, "If you have a digital TV, you may be able to view broadcast stations through your cable system without additional equipment." Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.