[haiku] Re: Suggestions to change double click on window title behaviour
- From: Skar Cat <skarmiglione.sk4r@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: haiku@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 04:09:44 -0500
a beautiful theme for...mac? just look
http://dlanham.com/art/somatheme/
2009/11/4 Sean Healy <jalopeura@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Nicholas Blachford wrote:
>
> The naughties brought us GUIs based on the 3D power in GPUs.
>> Smooth animations, transparency and 3D effects are now essentially free so
>> modern GUIs use them, Haiku does not.
>> Some systems of course overdo it completely and end up looking rather
>> silly as a result - wobbly windows might look cool but I've no idea why
>> you'd want to put them into a GUI.
>>
>> The BeOS GUI was a product of the 90's it was created in and it looks it,
>> Haiku following BeOS, looks very similar.
>>
>
> First thing I do with a new install of Windows is turn off all the default
> settings for animations, transparency, and effects. At first it was because
> they slowed down the machine. But even when I was running Win98 on an
> XP-capable machine, or XP on a more than capable machine, I still find
> myself turning off the eye candy.
>
> Subtle 3D effects don't bother me. When I'm dragging something, I want it
> to move smoothly and be partially transparent. And sometimes other windows
> look better transparent; for example, the find and replace dialog in my text
> editor goes transparent when it doesn't have focus. But such effects should
> be unobtrusive and function-related.
>
> Gray backgrounds may be boring, but the other colors I've seen (white or
> pastel blue) I found to be even worse. Gray is at least neutral.
>
>
> On the other hand I do like some curves here and there,
>>>
>>
>> Curves are always good ;-)
>>
>
> Volvo: Boxy but good.
>
> The problem I have with rounded corners is that they're really square
> corners with a few transparent pixels. And on XP, you occasionally see black
> pixels instead of transparent ones, which looks much worse than just having
> square corners.
>
> Now, if you altered the drawing routines so that it actually drew rounded
> corners instead of drawing square ones and modifying a few pixels after the
> fact, and all this took up no measurable time, maybe I'd go for rounded
> corners, at least on the window tabs.
>
> On the other hand, I'm also the kind of guy who prefers that my wife NOT
> wear makeup, a fact for which she is grateful.
>
>
> 1) No drag bars
>> - Even fairly old PC MP3 players can be moved by dragging any part of
>> their window. The latest version of Quicktime allows the same thing. If it
>> isn't selectable or a control, it should act as a drag bar.
>>
>
> I would find this extremely annoying. A piece of the background shouldn't
> act as a dragger. If I moved toward a button, missed, and hit the background
> next to it, the window would move. In my opinion, not a desirable behavior.
>
>
> 2) The Google Earth effect
>> - Before you had 2D maps that you navigated slowly via clunky buttons.
>> - After you have a 2D or 3D satellite photo map that you scroll smoothly
>> with your mouse (and now your finger).
>>
>
> This may a function of my age, but I've never used a GUI that implemented
> scrolling exclusively by clunky buttons. So I don't understand how you're
> applying this to OSes in general. Isn't this more a property of map (or at
> least image) programs? That's up to the app's development team.
>
>
> 2) Wii
>> Accelerometers allow completely different ways of interacting with a
>> system.
>>
>
> I don't own a Wii, nor have I ever played one. If I were still single, I
> probably would have, because I had every Nintendo up to the GameCube. But
> now I have a wife, two young kids, and a Masters program. I no longer have
> time for Nintendo.
>
> I mention this so you know where I'm coming from when I say that I don't
> know what you mean by accelerometer. To me, that word indicates a piece of
> hardware. So are you referring to the Wii controller? If so, an OS really
> can't do anything about that until such a controller becomes standard
> hardware.
>
>
>
>
> In short, I like the look of BeOS/Haiku. It's not perfect, but it does the
> job without being obtrusive. It could maybe use some rounded tabs and
> function-related transparency, but I can live without those.
>
> Of course, if it screams 90's to a user, then it's not obtrusive for that
> user. But whatever we do to placate those users, it shouldn't detract from
> the experience for the rest of us.
>
>
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