[arachne] Re: <Alt+E> Problems - Files in body

  • From: robo13@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: arachne@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2006 10:16:53 -0600 (CST)

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Hey Eric,
 When I used DOS I kept trying to keep all added executables
in a sysutils directory, and keep my root directory clean.
I would get errors of like 'PATH nested too deep' or some
such. I never have to change my PATH in 'nix. There is
nothing disorganized about it. The dos/windows way of
long PATH statements or dumping everything in one directory
and so many apps wanting their directories in the root
directory became a PITA for me. I'm a software junkie and
now when I add an app I know where to find configs, executables
or libraries, they all have their place. It keeps a cleaner
drive. It's just a different way of doing things than the
traditional M$, dos/windows way of doing things.
 IMO FreeDOS is considerably more advanced than the
older proprietary DOSs.
Rob

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006, Eric S. Emerson wrote:

Hi Rob,
                Lester already told me that Arachne
is in d:\arc\ directory. So, I would expect to see
at least that directory in the "path statement".

Ie:    path= d:\fdos\bin;d:\arc

similar to the path statement you wrote:

/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin

I was just trying to give an example. I was not
telling him he had to copy my path.  I was just
suggesting that d:\arc\ should be in his path
when he is running Arachne. That way batch files
that he puts in d:\arc\, his main arachne directory,
will be always accessible when he shells to dos
and changes drives and/or directories.

In DOS, many individual programs change the path
statement when they are run and then return the
original path statement when they are shut down.
If he doesn't want d:\arc\ in his path all the time then
a simple batch file, run when he starts Arachne,
could add it to the path and remove it from the path
when he shuts Arachne down.

BTW,  I have never seen a working DOS setup that
only had one directory in it's path. That would mean
that everything would have to be put into that directory
to be globally accessible. That would be poor organization
of files in my opinion.

Eric

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:36:57 -0600 (CST) robo13@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
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Hey Eric,
  It's been awhile since I used FreeDOS, although I've
been meaning to try the new stable 1.0 version, but
just as m$dos uses c:\dos and DrDOS uses c:\drdos
and then additional programs have to keep adding to the
PATH statement, and directories scattershot all over the
system, FreeDOS touches on the 'nix system of keeping
things much more organized and everything in it's place.
You pretty much never put anything in the root directory.
this is my PATH statement in Slackware.

/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin

Each bin has different permissions. He could just put 'a.bat'
in d:\fdos\bin or more likely a somewhat similar executable.
Rob

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eric S. Emerson wrote:

Hi Rob,
               I don't know 'nix or Freedos.
I just know that looks nothing like what
I get when I type PATH at the prompt and
press ENTER. That looks to me like the
path to his files in his "bin" directory.
Does Freedos have a different way of
displaying the path ?

Eric

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 20:02:09 -0600 (CST) robo13@xxxxxxxxxxx
writes:
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Eric,
  I would say that is his PATH, if he is using FreeDOS.
FreeDOS has a fair bit of 'nix influence.
Rob

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006, Eric S. Emerson wrote:

Hi Lester,
                  I learned that my path should always
include:
1. The root directory of my boot drive which is
always C: in all my computers.
2. The directory where all my DOS commands/utilities
are stored.
3. The Arachne main directory if I am running Arachne.

So that would be:   path= c:\;c:dos;d:\arachne  in my case.

I may also sometimes add other directories if they
contain programs/files that I want global access to.

I don't know your computer setup so I can't really
comment on your path.......except......... I am surprised
that I don't see the Arachne main directory included.
In fact, what you show below doesn't even look like
your path.  Your path is the line returned when you
type PATH at a DOS prompt and press ENTER.

Eric

On Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:15:15 -0500 "Lester"
<fd100@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
writes:
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Eric: If you put CDA.BAT in your PATH, then you can use it
from
the

command prompt when you're in DOS. There are many times that I
want
to return to my Arachne main directory and do something before
I
start up Arachne.

Might be a good idea, I put it there. Btw, my path is:
d:\fdos\bin

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