----- Original Message ----- From: "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:42 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Re: stopbath kills fixer > Modern emulsions don't need hardener but the "traditional" > or "silver rich" > emulsions such as Forte, Foma, etc. still being produced > could probably benefit > from hardening fixers. > > Jerry I wonder if these emulsions actually have any more silver in them. Probably more than tabular grain emulsions because tabular grains have better covering power than other shapes. However, the hardness of the emulsion has nothing to do with its silver content. Rather, it is an indication that the manufacturers are ignoring decades of improvements in emulsion making technology. Modern emulsions use different hardening agents than those of sixty or seventy years ago and also often contain synthetic polymers that make them much less vulnerable to swelling from pH or heat. To say something like this is no compliment to the films mentioned. Rather it indicates a throw back to the days of poorer technology. --- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.