Thanks for that suggestion. The potassium bromide is difficult to dissolve. I have always thought that Gainer's formulas tend to use too much Phenidone. His initial P/A ratio was 1:36 (0.25:9). If you make the necessary conversions in the Xtol formula you get a ratio of 1:69. Some other commercial film developers are even smaller 1:80 or 1:90. I was wondering if this was the cause of the fog and poor tonal separation that I was seeing. Substituting 0.3 g of Dimezone-S instead of 0.25 g of Phenidone keeps the same ratio. However, the substituted phenidones are said to be less efficient compared to phenidone even when the difference in molecular weight is taken into consideration. Jerry -----Original Message----- From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ryuji Suzuki Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 5:07 PM To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Adding Pot Bromife to PC-TEA From: "Koch, Gerald" <gkoch02@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Adding Pot Bromife to PC-TEA Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 15:51:38 -0500 > A few weeks ago Gainer changed the formula in an APUG post by reducing > the amount of Phenidone to 0.225 g. I don't know what that small change offers. Activity of phenidone type developer changes slower than a linear relation when the concentration is changed. > This helped a bit with > the contrast/density problem. Soon after that someone suggested > adding 0.25 g of potassium bromide to the concentrate. This really > cleaned up the negatives and greatly improved the contrast/density > problem. There are some published data that compared the effect of a bunch of antifoggants in terms of suppression of developer fog and absence of suppression on weakly exposed grains. Bromide isn't the best on this one, and you can easily avoid the problems you're having by using 1-phenyl-5-mercaptotetrazole. You should get a gram or two, which is enough to make a few hundred liters of developers. -- Ryuji Suzuki "Keep a good head and always carry a light camera." ================================================================================ ============================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there. ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.