> I was testing a new lens on one of my Nikons. The film was 35mm Eastman 5231 > ISO 80 rated at an EI of 125 and developed in the following developer (diluted) > 1+49 for 8 minutes at 22 C. > > Propylene glycol ....................... 50.0 ml > Triethanolamine ........................ 50.0 ml > Ascorbic acid .......................... 9.0 g > Dimezone-S ............................. 0.3 g > Potassium bromide ...................... 0.25 g > > Without the bromide there was an objectionable amount of fog and it was > difficult to obtain sufficient contrast without too much density. Hmmm.... My PC-TEA used G's recommended concentration of TEA that has twice as much as this. I dispersed (can't really use the term dissolved) the P and C in 100ml TEA with no PrGL. I was put off by the viscous nature of the TEA so I thinned it out 1:1 with dry methanol. The resultant mixture I diluted 1:25 for use. Your modification cuts the TEA in half, which should be fine as it is somewhat in excess in G's formulas. I agree that the unmodified PC/TEA as per Gainer gives some fog but is quite active and shows a good CI and speed. In my hands, though, it is grainier than I would like (yes, I'm probably too anal about it) resulting from a higher pH than I would like. If you dilute the PC/TEA in water that has 5/5 (gm/L) sulfite/boric acid, the pH come down and the fog disappears. All this is for 35mm though, and I would not hesitate to use the unmodified Gainer formulations for RF and LF. BTW, my TEA is reagent grade from Sigma so it should behave normally. JB ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.