I didn't see my questions asked at the FAQ's and I guess Hugh never saw them. But SpyBot just had an update that had some new entries for the hosts file, and I finally got my questions answered. SB's update did NOT delete the MVPS entries! I don't understand this. Why is it then, when you add your own entries to the hosts file, SB will overwrite and delete those??? And why is it when you undo the Immunize area (which sets the hosts file back to default), then Immunize again, that also deletes custom and MVPS entries????? So because of this, after every hosts file update from SB, you have to re-add your own user-created hosts file data each time, then you have to run the HostsMan MVPS update! HostsMan last because it removes duplicate entries. So you're going to have to keep a list of your own personal additions, then manually add them in alphabetical order! What a PITA. There's got be a better way. -Clint Happy Thanksgiving to all and God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://www.OrpheusComputing.com http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Grossman" > > Precisely, Hugh. > That is the bottom line of this entire thread! > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John O'Flynn" I was wondering when we would see the bottom line :-) But before it all gets laid to rest (or to give the pot another stir), I want to put in two more cents worth: (1) Firewalls: Back in the summer I installed Comodo on my wife's laptop when an XP patch conflicted violently with ZoneAlarm, and ZA had to be replaced pronto. I chose Comodo because of its excellent reputation, and I can report that it deserves all the praise it got. It is a fine program, logically arranged and easy to use. (2) In one of its earlier meanderings this thread got onto Hosts files. For years I've just been downloading the MVPS version whenever there's been a new one, enjoying the delight of seeing all those ad-servers killed, and not giving it much further thought. Then the other day I actually re-read the MVPS page http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm and rediscovered just how much valuable info is packed into that page and the faq that goes with it http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hostsfaq.htm . This covers various issues that came up in this thread, like "Is Merging the MVPS HOSTS file with others recommended?" and "Do other programs add entries to the HOSTS file?" They mention HostsMan and another similar program called HostsXpert ("a terrific multi-function Hosts File Manager"), and give a "host" of other interesting links. Anybody out there who is still wondering what a Hosts file is and what you do with it, ought to start with this page. John ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-