Re: [PCWorks] A tip for stopping annoying harassing "slide-ups" (a kind of pop-up) immune to pop-up blockers

  • From: "Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin" <PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 07:42:23 -0600

(Regarding #1, he was talking about the Restricted Sites area, 
not the hosts file).

Regarding #2; you can't put IP addresses in the hosts file?

#6.......HUH????  I'm shocked to hear that.  :-0  Whether the 
security is a "false sense" or not, there's no denying the fact 
they block a multitude of sins.  I don't call that false sense 
of security.  Without one, you have no idea when something is 
getting access to your PC--deleting data, stealing sensitive 
data, adding malware, etc.

Has anyone been able to determine yet if when SpyBot updates 
the hosts file, it overwrites any custom entries added either 
by you, or by MVPS?  Or does it just add the new data to the 
file leaving what's there intact?  If the latter, then how can 
it do it alphabetical order?
-Clint

God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hugh Vandervoort"


1. Spybot and others can add multiple entries.
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/restricted.htm
2."You'll find many times these parasites use an IP address 
rather than
a URL. They do this to avoid being blocked by an entry in a 
HOSTS file.
However you can still add a layer of protection to your system 
by adding
those IP addresses to the Restricted Zone."
3.Not that I know of-and the restricted sites files can get too 
large.
4. Yes. A good AV program will notify you of this.
5. I haven't researched this thoroughly, but you could just 
update them
both periodically(New HOSTS file, followed by a Spybot update).
6.I don't use a Firewall. I think they provide a false sense of 
security
and often confuse the user.
7. Merge with copy and paste.
8. Spybot seems to merge (add to) the file.


David Grossman wrote:
> This is a very useful and important tip, Clint. Thank you.
>
> For those who are having difficulty finding it, the 
> Restricted Sites area
> that Clint mentioned is located at Tools - Options - 
> Security - Restricted
> Sites in my OE6.
>
> Clint, I have a number of questions:
>
> 1. I see how to add a single line to the Restricted Sites, 
> but I do not see
> how to add multiple lines. How is that done?
>
> 2. Please explain how the Hosts file is better than the 
> Restricted Sites -
> or what is the difference between them.
>
> 3. Is there any advantage to having the restrictions in BOTH 
> the Restricted
> Sites and the Hosts file?
>
> 4. Can't malware also unprotect the Hosts file (by removing 
> the Read Only
> attribute) just as we humans can? Does the Read Only 
> attribute really add
> protection?
>
> 5. Does your hosts.zip file include the Spybot items? Can I 
> just replace my
> hosts file with yours?
>
> 6. Shouldn't a firewall block these intrusions from other 
> websites? If so,
> shouldn't we be making changes in our firewalls?
>
> 7. Hugh recommended a different file. Is there a way to merge 
> your file,
> Clint, with Hugh's?
>
> 8. When Spybot updates the Hosts file, does it just replace 
> the file? If so,
> then any additions from Clint and/or Hugh and/or mvps will be 
> deleted.
>
> David Grossman

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