Re: [PCWorks] A tip for stopping annoying harassing "slide-ups" (a kind of pop-up) immune to pop-up blockers
- From: "Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin" <PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:38:50 -0600
Well I tried searching for "spybot overwrites" and "spybot will
overwrite" along with: hosts file and no results! So I
guess you'll have to answer that in my post below Hugh.
As far as duplicates go, I installed the MVPS program and it
deletes duplicates. But I'm unsure as to why it wants to run
in the background all the time in the System Tray. If anyone
wants to try it, you need to pick the "Merge" option which is
what Hugh was referring to below. The other option overwrites
the SpyBot-created hosts file (and anything else you added).
So........I'm still wondering what happens when SpyBot
overwrites the MVPS-created hosts file. I guess you have to
run MVPS after every SpyBot update. ?
-Clint
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin"
That's confusing, then why do you think this happened (this is
from another post of mine):
"Well this doesn't look good and appears to certainly be a
problem: what I did for now, was undo the Immunize area, and
that set the hosts file back to default, empty. I then enabled
it again and what I added was gone! So much for that. I would
think the same problem will happen with new SpyBot updates."
Have you tried updating with SpyBot since you added the MVP
file? I would guess SB would overwrite the MVP data. Where is
that update utility you mentioned?
Oh I will never deny there's problems with FW's, I've had my
share with Outpost, Sygate and KIS. But the alternative is
worse. Mine has stopped countless forms of malware.
-Clint
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hugh Vandervoort"
The MVP Hosts file I downloaded is 603 KB.
After immunizing with Spybot, it's 867 KB. My assumption is
that Spybot
added to the file, hence the "Added by" entry.
The MVPS site has a utility that includes an "update" mode
that just
adds entries.
The firewall quote is from someone else, and is just an example
of the
many thousands of problems that people have had with firewalls.
IMHO, and I realize that people disagree, firewalls are much
more
trouble than they're worth for the average user. That's from my
extensive with average users. I outlined my security
techniques previously.
Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin wrote:
> Yes I too have that exact area created by SpyBot, but again
> what I'm saying is that area is NOT in the MVP hosts file
> version, and I'm still wondering how to incorporate both.
> That
> site John mentioned may have the answer,
> http://www.abelhadigital.com/, but it seems to have many bugs
> in it: "ATTENTION: This release doesn't fix many bugs that
> were
> reported after v3.1.55, but (most of them) are fixed in the
> UNstable version (3.2)."
>
> Is that a quote from someone else or your words about Comodo?
> I've never used it, so I can't say anything about installing
> or
> uninstalling it, but currently it's the highest ranking FW
> out
> there. Many if not most FW's and AV software are plagued
> with
> installation and uninstallation issues. I guess the simplest
> one out there is Zone Alarm.
>
> It's certainly one's own prerogative to use or not to use a
> FW,
> but it's incredibly risky not too. At the very least, XP's
> Native FW should be enabled, and a router be used that has a
> FW
> in it. A hardware router FW is seamless, I've used many and
> I've never once had any issues with them, and there's never
> any
> prompts from them. Even with just a hardware FW from a
> router,
> a PC can past most tests at FW testing sites. One is
> certainly
> potentially going to have far more problems getting their
> PC's
> hardware and personal info hacked from lack of a FW, over any
> issues learning how to use one. That's what ERUNT (or other
> system restore) is for. ;-)
> -Clint
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