I see now you beat me to the "that's backwards" statement, LOL. As for firewalls, I do at times see "ambiguous" messages, usually at websites with embedded videos. I think it was the AMA awards site (on TV a few nights ago) and I was checking out the winners. They have videos at the website and in cases like that, I've seen strange firewall alerts that list my own local IP addresses (like 255.255.255.255 and 198.******* which are local subnet mask host router IP's), and I don't understand why you don't see that at sites like YouTube. I sometimes allow or deny those, and if the video doesn't play (i.e. "fails") I have to do it again. You'll also then see IP's or domains NOT associated with the website, those I deny, and still if it won't play you have to try again and allow it. The obvious ones are when you're not at any website, and you get some alert (either FW alert or proactive defense from some kind of security suite like KIS), obviously those you deny. Or if you're at a website and didn't initiate anything or any kind of video, you're just reading the page, and you get an alert, those you deny. When I say "alert" I mean request for access, that's why you DENY it. Generally, a FW will do it's blocking without telling you anything (or most can be set to tell you EVERYTHING). These are automatic access denies for what they know as not being legit. I rarely get alerts on mine that require user action. -Clint God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://www.OrpheusComputing.com http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Vandervoort" That's backward, David. "Deny" protects you. If some operation seems to then fail, study the message a bit and it should become clear if the warning is related. Cilnt is right in that ambiguous situations are very rare. Remember, though, that if something really goes awry, it's Clint's fault. David Grossman wrote: > Dear Clint and Hugh, > > Deny. Sounds like reasonable advice. > > Of course, these AV programs were just doing their jobs when > they warned me > about the change. If I keep clicking on Deny whenever I am in > the dark > [story of my life :-) ] then I'm not allowing the programs to > give me the > protection that they were designed for. > > David Grossman ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-