Yes I too have that exact area created by SpyBot, but again what I'm saying is that area is NOT in the MVP hosts file version, and I'm still wondering how to incorporate both. That site John mentioned may have the answer, http://www.abelhadigital.com/, but it seems to have many bugs in it: "ATTENTION: This release doesn't fix many bugs that were reported after v3.1.55, but (most of them) are fixed in the UNstable version (3.2)." Is that a quote from someone else or your words about Comodo? I've never used it, so I can't say anything about installing or uninstalling it, but currently it's the highest ranking FW out there. Many if not most FW's and AV software are plagued with installation and uninstallation issues. I guess the simplest one out there is Zone Alarm. It's certainly one's own prerogative to use or not to use a FW, but it's incredibly risky not too. At the very least, XP's Native FW should be enabled, and a router be used that has a FW in it. A hardware router FW is seamless, I've used many and I've never once had any issues with them, and there's never any prompts from them. Even with just a hardware FW from a router, a PC can past most tests at FW testing sites. One is certainly potentially going to have far more problems getting their PC's hardware and personal info hacked from lack of a FW, over any issues learning how to use one. That's what ERUNT (or other system restore) is for. ;-) -Clint God Bless Clint Hamilton, Owner http://www.OrpheusComputing.com http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hugh Vandervoort" Here's the entry in my Hosts file: # Start of entries inserted by Spybot - Search & Destroy 127.0.0.1 007guard.com 127.0.0.1 008i.com ... I Installed the MVP Hosts file first, then the S & D file I've installed many a firewall, and almost all my users end up confused. I know the conventional wisdom, and I, as well as many others, reject it. Just one of many examples: "After seeing the recommendation about Comodo, I decided to try it. After half a day of unsuccessfully trying to get it to play nice with my system, I finally decided to uninstall it. After the uninstall, nothing worked. No Internet connection, nothing in the Control Panel would work, Firefox would not start, Spy Sweeper hung, etc. Had to resort to a system restore. After doing some research, a lot of others have had problems as well. Just a word of caution." Thanks, but no thanks. Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin wrote: > (Regarding #1, he was talking about the Restricted Sites > area, > not the hosts file). > > Regarding #2; you can't put IP addresses in the hosts file? > > #6.......HUH???? I'm shocked to hear that. :-0 Whether the > security is a "false sense" or not, there's no denying the > fact > they block a multitude of sins. I don't call that false > sense > of security. Without one, you have no idea when something is > getting access to your PC--deleting data, stealing sensitive > data, adding malware, etc. > > Has anyone been able to determine yet if when SpyBot updates > the hosts file, it overwrites any custom entries added either > by you, or by MVPS? Or does it just add the new data to the > file leaving what's there intact? If the latter, then how > can > it do it alphabetical order? > -Clint ========================= The list's FAQ's can be seen by sending an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with FAQ in the subject line. To unsubscribe, subscribe, set Digest or Vacation to on or off, go to //www.freelists.org/list/pcworks . You can also send an email to PCWorks-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with Unsubscribe in the subject line. Your member list settings can be found at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=pcworks . Once logged in, you have access to numerous other email options. The list archives are located at //www.freelists.org/archives/pcworks/ . All email posted to the list will be placed there in the event anyone needs to look for previous posts. -zxdjhu-