Re: [PCWorks] A tip for stopping annoying harassing "slide-ups" (a kind of pop-up) immune to pop-up blockers
- From: "Clint Hamilton-PCWorks Admin" <PCWorks@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pcworks@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:08:12 -0600
I certainly don't agree with those "experts". If you're
online, you're vulnerable. It may be true you're 'less
vulnerable', or more accurately, vulnerable to **different**
types of attacks, but just because a PC's IP address may
change, that has nothing to do with countless other probes,
sniffs and exploits, any of which could harm a PC. For
example, there's some Trojan downloaders that once they're on
your PC, they'll send personal data back to the creator every
time you're online, which has nothing to do with an IP address
changing. Or, any website at any time can launch some kind of
nefarious malicious act just by visiting it.
There's also the vast number of M$ patches that (by their own
admission in "mitigating factors") are not even necessary if a
firewall is used.
A router with a firewall is definitely better than nothing.
Like I mentioned the other day, they can pass most tests at
firewall testing sites. Not all, but most. The majority of PC
users will never see any kind of an attack and this is adequate
for most. But personally I'm never going to take the risk.
-Clint
Happy Thanksgiving to all and God Bless
Clint Hamilton, Owner
http://www.OrpheusComputing.com
http://www.ComputersCustomBuilt.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hugh Vandervoort"
The experts all agree that a firewall is unnecessary with dial
up. Your
IP address changes so often that a hacker can't get anywhere.
If you have a NAT router and keep your system up to date,
software
firewalls on a home computer are unnecessary.
Those who are still interested after all this blather might
want to
check their router's firewall log to see what actually happens
with port
sniffers.
John O'Flynn wrote:
> It was the ISP who pointed out the conflict when we tried to
> find out
> why we could no longer get on line. He said various of his
> other
> customers had the same problem and it was caused by the
> recent XP patch.
> Now comes the really violent bit. He said kill ZA. I killed
> ZA.
> Everything worked fine, but I felt uneasy with nothing but
> the lousy
> firewall in XP so I installed Comodo. Everything still
> worked fine and
> still does. I'll deal with any other violent conflicts if
> and as they
> arise. I'm quite good at those. But I'm not saddling up and
> riding out
> on Google looking for them.
>
> This happened on a dial-up connection in a little place out
> in the
> sticks, but that laptop is also used on high-speed and
> wireless
> connections, and my wife says there is no way she's going to
> run it
> without a good firewall. I quite agree.
>
> John
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