It's a German camera by design, history, appearance and quality control, Carl Zeiss does a second quality control after to receive camera and lenses from Japan, where they already were tested with the Zeiss K8 tester machine; CZ sells them directly. It looks in general like a modernized and stylized Contax II and like the Contax II it has the largest rangefinder basis in the market, this is an excerpt from the CZ website: "When designing a new camera from scratch, there are virtually endless options in shaping it. Not every shape, however, is equally useful, equally successful, equally beautiful, equally affordable. How should we at Zeiss select the shape for the new Zeiss Ikon camera and for its lenses? "Well – the new Zeiss Ikon camera should come with a body that, first of all, enables positive grip with European size male hands. This, to us, is a very important requirement, something which seems to be much less important to many makers of consumer digital cameras and cell phones. And the new Zeiss Ikon also should, to a certain extent, resemble the cameras that made the name Zeiss Ikon famous over many decades in camera history. It also should be easily differentiated from other current 35 mm rangefinder cameras, which might be placed next to the new Zeiss Ikon camera in a dealer’s shop window or on a catalogue or magazine page." Carlos 2009/11/6 Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > Well it is fair because they are all made in the same factory by the same > people twenty feel away.. And the camera has not the faintest similarity in > appearance or feel to a German Made Zeiss Ikon Camera nor the glass. > > I love Japanese cameras. I use them every day. I just don't see the point > in pretending they are German cameras that I got an amazing deal on. > When they are priced like Japanese cameras. > Look and feel like Japanese cameras. > Are made in Japan. > Don't tell me its a Zeiss camrea. > > Wow what's the better deal a Zeiss 35mm f2 for 1000 usd or a Leica for 3000? > Well if it really was a Zeiss lens there would be no discussion no argument. > The Zeiss lens would be an absolute STEAL. > If it really was a Zeiss lens. > > Its not just labor its choice of materials and tolerances of the end result. > A Zeiss piece of gear should cost the same as a Leica piece of gear if not > more. > I can tell you the only thing I've spent more money on than my Leica glass > is my Zeiss Hasselblad glass. Which in no way resembles anything coming out > of the Cosina factory with any logo whatsoever on it. And you can find any > logo you want hanging off the ceiling there. Sony. You name it. > > Mark William Rabiner > > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list