> Don, magenta filters fade and do so quickly if you don't have a heat > absorber in the light path before the filters. If your filter fades you may > not be able to get high contrast with any paper. > > Also if you have a white diffusing box.... it is possible over the years the > reflective surface inside can fade and go yellow.. So if you have extremely > yellow light coming out of the diffusing box filtered with even good magenta > it will be hard to get high contrast. Suggest you check those out. Dave, what you're saying is 100% correct. However: 1) My color printing from the same head (Chromega II) is "nominal"; the + and - CC changes apply properly and are "as expected". And my base starting filtrations seem only about +/- 10CC from the recommendations on the Kodak boxes. Of course, to complexify the situation, my starting M filtration is generally about -10CC from the printed recommendation! 2) I can in fact get up to contrast #4 on Agfa, Kodak, or Ilford from the filters in the head (contrast #4 is all you can actually get from a Chromega II head anyway), and contrast #5 using the discrete filters. It appears to be only the Forte which seems to exhibit this issue. Cheers, - Don Feinberg ducque@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.