[pure-silver] Re: New color head "discoveries"

  • From: "Rob Champagne" <app@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 18:39:37 +0000

Well no I'm not referring to log numbers at all. I've been through the=
 numbers game and I have a densitometer and can do numbers if required but I=
 much prefer the practical evaluation method. The best way to do that in my=
 opinion is by using the AA method of adjusting neg development based on=
 printing the 11 square patches as illustrated in the negative.  I have a=
 template I cut from mountboard which fits an 8x10 piece of paper. I just=
 print my zone 0 thru 10 test negs onto a piece of paper using my standard=
 print developer etc at the given figures for G2 Y+M on my enlarger. If the=
 shadows aren't separated enough then I use some more film exposure. If the=
 highlights need pulling back I reduce development.  The result is that I=
 know that my negs fit exactly onto a G2 setting and any discrepancies can=
 be adjusted with contrast control on the enlarger. There is no need for=
 number ranges. =20
Once again, it all depends on what enlarger filtration(if any) you use to=
 calibrate your neg development.  Problems may arise if you use both graded=
 and VCpaper but thats your choice, i.e. you calibrate for one or the other=
 with or without filtration.
Obviously you can do your calibration to how ever many stops of range you=
 like, eg 8, 9 or 10 etc.

And yes, I know AA says paper batches vary from batch to batch so he didn't=
 like calibrating to paper, but they are going to do that regardless of what=
 your neg dev is calibrated to, so using an arbitrary paper batch (i.e. the=
 paper batch you have to hand) to do your calibration on, is no worse than=
 not calibrating to an arbitrary log range which you have to first work out=
 to know what it is anyway.


At 13/01/2005 18:55 +0100, you wrote:
>I assume you are talking about the log exposure range, when referring to
>numbers from 0.6 to 1.8.
>Well, log ER 0.6 is about grade 4.8, log ER 0.8 is grade 3.5 and log ER=
 1.55
>is grade 0. A log ER of 0.8 is a bit low, but otherwise, you are not all
>that far off workable conditions.
>
>As Richard said, dedicated VC filters get the most contrast range from VC
>papers, but I argue that you don=B9t need that. If I could only get grade 1=
 to
>3.5 from my color head (I do actually get 0 to 5), I could still print 98%
>of my negatives. Sometimes I use a VC filter 5 to burn-in some local areas,
>but otherwise, the extended contrast range of filters is true but
>over-rated. And using a hard-contrast filter in addition to a color head is
>actually very convenient, since it avoids resetting the dials.
>
>I don=B9t see a real problem here.
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>Regards
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>Ralph W. Lambrecht
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>On 1/13/05 1:39 AM, "J.R. Stewart" <jrstewart@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Well, my Omega Chromega Dichro DII came in last weekend and I've begun
>> testing. with VC papers. First VC I've printed in 20 years.
>>=20
>> I've been using metol glycine based Ansco130 paper developer (modified by=
 AA
>> and without hydroquinone).That's where I started. Problem is, the hardest
>> contrast I was able to get with 0Y/170M was about 0.8 on Forte Polygrade=
 V
>> (boy is that paper really blue!!) and about 0.6 on Kodak Polymax Fine=
 Art.
>> The softest contrast comes in about right at 1.8 (polymax) and 1.4
>> (polygrade).
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>> Glycine is a much softer developer.. is that why I'm able to get no more
>> than ISO ~3.5 on the VC papers... do the emulsions require stronger
>> developers for satisfactory development? I tested my graded papers under
>> white light exposure, developed them in A130, and acquired the right=
 scale.
>> I developed all the test prints at 6x factorial so I would think that=
 would
>> be sufficient, and I was able to get max black.
>>=20
>> I ran an Ansco 120 test last night. The test prints look better, but=
 haven't
>> read them yet.
>>=20
>> Also, I learned that both of these paper are very sensitive to the Thomas
>> safelite... I ran a screening test and at 5 minutes exposure I got fog=
 that
>> appeared as Zone VI reflectance.. So, I move the safelight, unplug it, or
>> change papers to one less sensitive, and retest. Such is life.
>>=20
>> J.R. Stewart
>> Leesburg, VA=20
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