[lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape
- From: "Mike Geary" <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:23:38 -0600
Welcome back to the fray, Lawrence. I was hoping you'd reappear someday. I've
missed you, man. I think you must be the last living supporter of this war.
"The war against Iraq has been a tremendous success in the war against the
Islamists."
Amen. We've turned all that around. Sure those slippery devils sometimes
sneak into the Green Zone to blow people up, but that's fairly rare. The Green
Zone is clearly under our control. We've introduced the ultimate Gated
Community into a foreign culture -- they've got to be impressed with our way of
life. Go America!!
But, you know, Lawrence, even your Stasi hero Bush has admitted that Iraq has
become a training ground for terrorists. Hmmm. Oh, but wait, you said the war
against the Islamists, not the terrorists. I stand corrected.
Mike Geary
Memphis
----- Original Message -----
From: Lawrence Helm
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:13 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape
Thanks: It shouldn't be beyond you that I support this present war or
compare it to WWII, but I know where you get your info so I'm not surprised
that it is. In WWII we were attacked by adherents of fascist philosophies who
hoped to conquer us. On 9/11 we were attacked by adherents of a fascist
ideology who hoped to conquer us. (And that wasn't the first attack or the
first declaration of war against us by adherents of this ideology.)
Information about the Fascist regimes of WWII was readily available to the
curious. Information about Islamist Fascist regimes and strategies is also
available to the curious.
Since I am not a pacifist I do not wish to be conquered by the Islamists. I
don't even want our nation to be attacked by them. Furthermore, since I have
been curious about the players I have spent a lot of time checking them out.
Iraq was an enormous impediment in the way of our war against the Islamists.
The war against Iraq has been a tremendous success in the war against the
Islamists. You of course won't have heard that yet, but you will.
Of course the Islamists are slippery devils ready to pull the wool over the
eyes of the unwary. See Andre Nusse's Muslim Palestine as an example of how
they operate. The Islamists don't fit the Western preconception of Nation
States. Sayyid Qutb didn't believe in the separation of the ummah into
nations. This information is available to the curious and energetic.
Thus, since the Islamists have declared war against us, we who aren't
pacifists, seek to oppose them. The Middle East, thanks to WWI and especially
the British and French is messy. They split the Middle East up in awkward
national groupings. The Islamists want to do away with all borders although as
Nusse indicates, local Islamist groups can support political factions that
provide them with some advantage. They can never settle for such agreements as
ultimate solutions, but they can agree to them keeping the word "temporary" in
the forefront of their thinking. Islamists function in and have agreements
with factions and regimes throughout the Middle East and in all Islamic
nations. Fighting them is going to be difficult. It is going to require
imagination. Alas, we shall probably get very very bloody before we (as a
nation) acquire any.
Lawrence
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On Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:35 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape
Lawrence, welcome back! Glad to see that you're still supporting this war.
How you can compare this war to WWII is beyond me, but welcome back anyway.
It's good to see your post.
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