[lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape

  • From: "Andy Amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:25:06 -0500

Well, if it was such an important war, why wasn't it fought more seriously?  
Why did the Army have to laugh at their proposal and insist on a larger army 
than what Rove & Co. wanted, and still be nowhere close to what was needed?  
Why was there no plan for after Baghdad fell?  Why did we go to war with the 
army we had instead of the army we needed (a paraphrase)?  Why cut taxes when 
the money is needed for military spending to fund the army to fight this war 
that we need so desperately?  Yadda yadda.  In short, why was it not waged as 
if it was an important war?  If you say it was the Democrats' fault, then 
you're passing the buck.  The Republicans run the show and he had everybody's 
approval in any case.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Lawrence Helm 
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 1/20/2006 8:13:44 PM 
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape

Thanks:  It shouldn?t be beyond you that I support this present war or compare 
it to WWII, but I know where you get your info so I?m not surprised that it is. 
 In WWII we were attacked by adherents of fascist philosophies who hoped to 
conquer us.  On 9/11 we were attacked by adherents of a fascist ideology who 
hoped to conquer us.  (And that wasn?t the first attack or the first 
declaration of war against us by adherents of this ideology.)  Information 
about the Fascist regimes of WWII was readily available to the curious.  
Information about Islamist Fascist regimes and strategies is also available to 
the curious.

Since I am not a pacifist I do not wish to be conquered by the Islamists.  I 
don?t even want our nation to be attacked by them.  Furthermore, since I have 
been curious about the players I have spent a lot of time checking them out.  
Iraq was an enormous impediment in the way of our war against the Islamists.  
The war against Iraq has been a tremendous success in the war against the 
Islamists.  You of course won?t have heard that yet, but you will.

Of course the Islamists are slippery devils ready to pull the wool over the 
eyes of the unwary.  See Andre Nusse?s Muslim Palestine as an example of how 
they operate.  The Islamists don?t fit the Western preconception of Nation 
States.  Sayyid Qutb didn?t believe in the separation of the ummah into 
nations.  This information is available to the curious and energetic.

Thus, since the Islamists have declared war against us, we who aren?t 
pacifists, seek to oppose them.  The Middle East, thanks to WWI and especially 
the British and French is messy.  They split the Middle East up in awkward 
national groupings.  The Islamists want to do away with all borders although as 
Nusse indicates, local Islamist groups can support political factions that 
provide them with some advantage.  They can never settle for such agreements as 
ultimate solutions, but they can agree to them keeping the word ?temporary? in 
the forefront of their thinking.  Islamists function in and have agreements 
with factions and regimes throughout the Middle East and in all Islamic  
nations.  Fighting them is going to be difficult.  It is going to require 
imagination.  Alas, we shall probably get very very bloody before we (as a 
nation) acquire any.


From: lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:lit-ideas-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Andy Amago
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:35 PM
To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Text of bin Laden Tape

Lawrence, welcome back!  Glad to see that you're still supporting this war.  
How you can compare this war to WWII is beyond me, but welcome back anyway.  
It's good to see your post.

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