[lit-ideas] Re: Correction and Weight Watchers (1974)
- From: "Judith Evans" <judithevans001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 18:22:05 +0100
> A.A. Homosexuals do have things in common, to wit, they like
> drag, they wear skirts with no underwear (based on past Gay Days
> in Disneyworld), they are very youth and appearance oriented,
> they are among the biggest consumers of sex related drugs such
> as Viagra, much of it bought on the internet, and so on. This
> is common knowledge.
Just shows the limits of common knowledge.
Judy Evans
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> From: Mike Geary <atlas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> >> Uh, Andy, hmmm. How many gay guys do you know personally?
>
> > A.A. Personally? As in up front and personal? Let's see. Probably
> about as many as I know serial killers. <
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> Yes, that's what I assumed from your post.
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> > But does that mean the FBI can't profile serial killers and
> know generally
> what drives them? <
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> I have no idea what the accuracy rate of criminal psychological profiling
> is, but even if it's high, the profiles are made through in-depth,
> historical knowledge of specific personality types, not through
> accepting
> stereotypes about them. Homosexuals are not a specific personality type,
> they are as varied in personality as the heterosexual population -- and
> that's my point.
>
>
> A.A. Homosexuals do have things in common, to wit, they like
> drag, they wear skirts with no underwear (based on past Gay Days
> in Disneyworld), they are very youth and appearance oriented,
> they are among the biggest consumers of sex related drugs such
> as Viagra, much of it bought on the internet, and so on. This
> is common knowledge. Now the question becomes, why such an
> emphasis on youth and appearance, why the need for skirts when
> even women wear pants most of the time, and so on.
>
>
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> > Do you really think that being something gives people any clue
> to why they
> do what they do, or can't stop themselves from doing what they
> don't want to
> do? <
>
> If you weren't such a new member, you'd know that the last thing
> I trust is
> self-knowledge. And I'm not sure what that has to do with the question
> anyway. I'm not saying that you have to BE a homosexual in order to pass
> judgment on them, I'm saying you need to KNOW some homosexuals, then you
> wouldn't think of passing judgment on them any more so than
> passing judgment
> on Italians or Americans.
>
>
> A.A. Or I'd have to know some serial killers or some drug
> addicts or some prostitutes. There are traits groups have in
> common, including ethnic groups, such as Italians or Americans,
> that are very different from other groups and are easily
> identified. While individuals within any group are different,
> groups tend to be fairly homogeneous in values and norms. And,
> unless you believe that things happen without cause, can we
> agree that these guys self select for a reason, into this
> general lifestyle called "gay" which chooses to emphasize a lot
> of sex and appearance for its mainstays.
>
>
>
> > So, in short, yes, I think observing is often a better way to know
> something than to be in the midst of it. <
>
> Yes, every prejudice thinks it knows all it needs to know. All I'm
> suggesting is that your TV sitcom observations of homosexuality
> leave a bit
> to be desired, if you'll forgive my saying so.
>
>
>
> A.A. Actually, I much prefer the History Channel. Or CNN (for
> all its faults). Or even Judge Judy to get a really close
> glimpse of the masses. I have never watched even Friends and do
> not mourn its passing. Since I do industrial copywriting, I
> keep up with the culture only as much as I need to for small
> talk. Beyond that I break out in hives so I have to quit and
> soothe myself with the Weather Channel. Therefore, any
> information about homosexuals I have is not gathered from sit coms.
>
> Laura (no, not Petrach's Laura) is hounding me to do the
> Mother's Day thing. So, I gotta make like a banana and split.
>
>
> A.A.
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> Mike Geary
> Memphis
> a queer city if ever there was one
> and gay, too!
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