And, for the record, it isn't just "gay porn" that I find trashy. I find all "porn" trashy. Amusing as hell, but nevertheless trashy. Erin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erin Holder" <erin.holder@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 10:09 AM Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Correction and Weight Watchers (1974) > In my opinion, when it comes to "gay porn", all of it is trashy. Trashy is > a universal characteristic of what I would qualify as "gay porn" and my use > of the word did was not meant to imply that there was an alternative such as > classy. And I didn't mean domestic strippers (though I couldn't fathom > there being many imports), I meant domestic beer. It was the domestic beer > that was overpriced. I have no idea how much the strippers were. We just > went for a laugh. > > Erin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "andy amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2004 9:56 AM > Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Correction and Weight Watchers (1974) > > > > You wrote > > That one was shown to me by my friend Alex, last night, when we were > drinking > > six packs in the gay bookstore where he used to be employed, flipping > through > > trashy gay porn, > > > > > > A.A. What is trashy gay porn? Presumably if there is trashy porn, then > there is classy porn, straight or gay, correct? Does perfectly shaped > genitalia make classy porn, or is it perhaps the absence of certain > elements? > > > > > > Erin: and preparing for our excursion to the Brass Rail, a strip > > club down the road with over priced domestic and bad uncoordinated > strippers > > with stupid names like "Star". All in typical Friday, > > > > > > A.A. Interesting. What are domestic strippers, and, since vendors charge > what the market will bare, uh, bear, in what way are these strippers > overpriced? > > > > As I said in an earlier post, I never particularly cared about > homosexuality, but lately it seems to be everywhere. One thing I noticed is > that gay guys have an aura around them of perpetual adolescence. I'm almost > tempted to think they shave their legs, especially if they're going to be > wearing skirts. I know drag is popular among gays. So are gay men really > men or are they wanna be women who are in a sense attracted to the opposite > sex, which is to say, to men? > > > > My outsider's perspective also tells me that getting old for gay men is > harder than for straight men. Youth and the body beautiful are highly > prized in the gay community, echoing the way neurotic straight men dump > their mates for younger women. Since we all lose our charms in the end, is > the gay lifestyle really so gay? I have also read that domestic violence is > a serious problem in the gay community, so gayness doesn't necessarily (or > perhaps even usually) bring bonded bliss. > > > > Regarding Jullie Krueger's idea that girls like gays on dates because > there's no pressure to have sex with them, perhaps its the gays who like the > girls on dates. Gays, to my knowledge, live for sex, which they have almost > compulsively with other men. Does this beg the question that when sex is so > all pervasive with a compulsive edge to it, is it really fun? And what is > someone who routinely reads porn really reading, since porn is basically the > same thing over and over. > > > > > > A.A. > > > > > > > > Erin > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, > digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html