[lit-ideas] Re: Correction and Weight Watchers (1974)

  • From: "Erin Holder" <erin.holder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 10:09:51 -0400

In my opinion, when it comes to "gay porn", all of it is trashy.  Trashy is
a universal characteristic of what I would qualify as "gay porn" and my use
of the word did was not meant to imply that there was an alternative such as
classy.  And I didn't mean domestic strippers (though I couldn't fathom
there being many imports), I meant domestic beer.  It was the domestic beer
that was overpriced.  I have no idea how much the strippers were.  We just
went for a laugh.

Erin


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From: "andy amago" <aamago@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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> You wrote
> That one was shown to me by my friend Alex, last night, when we were
drinking
> six packs in the gay bookstore where he used to be employed, flipping
through
> trashy gay porn,
>
>
> A.A.  What is trashy gay porn?  Presumably if there is trashy porn, then
there is classy porn, straight or gay, correct?  Does perfectly shaped
genitalia make classy porn, or is it perhaps the absence of certain
elements?
>
>
> Erin:  and preparing for our excursion to the Brass Rail, a strip
> club down the road with over priced domestic and bad uncoordinated
strippers
> with stupid names like "Star".  All in typical Friday,
>
>
> A.A. Interesting.  What are domestic strippers, and, since vendors charge
what the market will bare, uh, bear, in what way are these strippers
overpriced?
>
> As I said in an earlier post, I never particularly cared about
homosexuality, but lately it seems to be everywhere.  One thing I noticed is
that gay guys have an aura around them of perpetual adolescence.  I'm almost
tempted to think they shave their legs, especially if they're going to be
wearing skirts.  I know drag is popular among gays.  So are gay men really
men or are they wanna be women who are in a sense attracted to the opposite
sex, which is to say, to men?
>
> My outsider's perspective also tells me that getting old for gay men is
harder than for straight men.  Youth and the body beautiful are highly
prized in the gay community, echoing the way neurotic straight men dump
their mates for younger women.  Since we all lose our charms in the end, is
the gay lifestyle really so gay?  I have also read that domestic violence is
a serious problem in the gay community, so gayness doesn't necessarily (or
perhaps even usually) bring bonded bliss.
>
> Regarding Jullie Krueger's idea that girls like gays on dates because
there's no pressure to have sex with them, perhaps its the gays who like the
girls on dates.  Gays, to my knowledge, live for sex, which they have almost
compulsively with other men.  Does this beg the question that when sex is so
all pervasive with a compulsive edge to it, is it really fun?  And what is
someone who routinely reads porn really reading, since porn is basically the
same thing over and over.
>
>
> A.A.
>
>
>
> Erin
>
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