Gents, Is someone having a laugh, Police checks for model engineers. The problrm is not having to have a check done they can be provided free of charge if you know who to apply to but consider this. Firstly where is the eveidence to show a need for this, how many incidents have there been where young people have been put at risk. Secondly, anyone who chooses not to submit to the checks would theoretically not be able to attend any public meetings. They also run the risk of being socialy excluded. Thirdly why only drivers, what about gaurds, station staff, people working round the place making tea perhaps, the list could go on and on for why. Some might be offended by the thought that others think that because they play trains they are automatically offenders of a most vile nature. Rules and regulations are made for the guidence of wise men and the disobedience of fools. They also need to be made where there is a need, which in itself has to come from a real purpose evidenced by fact. Regards IDP "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a Ride!" "Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can fly" Priest & Sons Model Engineers http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Purslow" <bpduo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: [modeleng] Re: Accidents Alan, > Apart from a boiler certificate, many clubs now require police clearance > of > each driver. I've never been asked for police clearance at any club I have ever run at. Furthermore I've never heard of anybody or anybody who knows anybody who has come across this. Is this something which is common practice "down South"? > My club, like some others, requries drivers to have gone through a driver > training programme, have the appropriate certificate, and carry a log book > around for that.:- > > This year's training schedule will include: > Learning to prepare a steam locomotive for use on the track > Track safety and signals > Cleaning and placing 'on-shed' a locomotive after use > Driving and control of a 'diesel' > Correct use of signals and official duties of station control and guard > Driving with passengers > > The Driver training scheme is intended to prepare drivers for running > trains safely on public running days. Included in the training is a > log-book to be maintained by each trainee signifying hours spent driving > on > any track with any locomotive. > > Then, for many events, there is the Risk Assesment to be prepared and > submitted beforehand, accident books, logs, etc etc.... Aah.........now I begin to see where you are coming from. This little lot does seem to be somewhat over the top. But, tell me, what would happen if I, who has driven steam loco's for many years but has no documentary evidence, visited your club with a big shiny engine and offered to haul passengers? Barrie MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.10.8/415 - Release Date: 09/08/2006 MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.