[modeleng] Re: Accidents
- From: "I.D.PRIEST." <idpriest@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:59:56 +0100
Gents,
How far do we go, I work in schools and recently somebody decided that
people in my position should have enhanced checks, two points:~
Firstly how have I changed in the last seventeen years to warrent this.
Secondly if we are to go down this line with our hobby then I'm sorry I am
not prepared to submit bank account details and details of my family and
friends just so I can take a passenger round a track in a public park.
I'm all for protecting the innocent and vulnerable but I do think its time
some of our legislators ought to have a sense of proportionality.
Also will the legislators ever get inside our private workshops after all
Peter wouldn't that also be formalising good practice once handed down.
Regards IDP
"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in
sideways, Champagne in one hand - strawberries in the other,
body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO - What a
Ride!"
"Never drive faster than your gaurdian angel can fly"
Priest & Sons Model Engineers
http://www.kinvermes.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/p1.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: <psbr20252@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:18 AM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: Accidents
Alan,
Police checks (rather than clearance) is common sense in our current world=
of paranoia and litigation!
With regard to the other items=2E=2E=2E=2Ewould you be happy having a driv=
er on
your track who didn't know how to do any of those activities=2E
Please don't blame the safety police for this (they get enough stick as it=
is) all that is happening is that what was "informally" done in recent
times is being formalised and thus has an audit trail=2E What's wrong wit=
h
that=3F
Plymouth Miniature Steam had a regime similar to the old "steam days" wher=
e
potential drivers started by learning how to get steam up (they just got t=
o
driving a bit quicker than the old links!) they also had to "guard" as wel=
l=2E
I'm sorry Alan, but like a lot of people, you seem to be taking an extreme=
view of what is simply good practice and common sense (and as a friend
says, the problem is these days, it just isn't that common any more!)
Regards
Peter
Original Message:
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From: alan stepney alan@alanstepney=2Einfo
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 02:08:49 +0100
To: modeleng@freelists=2Eorg
Subject: [modeleng] Re: Accidents
Apart from a boiler certificate, many clubs now require police clearance o=
f=20
each driver=2E
My club, like some others, requries drivers to have gone through a
driver=20=
training programme, have the appropriate certificate, and carry a log book=
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around for that=2E:-
This year's training schedule will include:
Learning to prepare a steam locomotive for use on the track
Track safety and signals
Cleaning and placing 'on-shed' a locomotive after use
Driving and control of a 'diesel'
Correct use of signals and official duties of station control and guard
Driving with passengers
The Driver training scheme is intended to prepare drivers for running=20
trains safely on public running days=2E Included in the training is a=20
log-book to be maintained by each trainee signifying hours spent driving o=
n=20
any track with any locomotive=2E
Then, for many events, there is the Risk Assesment to be prepared and=20
submitted beforehand, accident books, logs, etc etc=2E=2E=2E=2E
I have probably missed some out, but that lot is enough to turn a hobby
into=20
work=2E
Alan
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From: "Barrie Purslow" <bpduo@gotadsl=2Eco=2Euk>
And long may they continue to do so but I still don't see your point about=
the "plethora of rules and regulations" involved in public running=2E I've=
never come across them - what are they=3F
Barrie=20
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