sorry... not jeff .. Jess, >jeff.. >you have to listen to all comments. Some are bad, some are >good. but this is large team and people have different views. >I personally do not like your screenshots. I can argument this >if you want. >Someone does not like icons I made and it only helps me to >create right direction. I take only critics with good argument >as serious. -boris > >> >> >>dude your a retard you cant do colors or set ups like that . >>This team is not only disorganized but nothing but a hate fest OBOS >>needs & name & we need to work on ui skins if it will be supported >>logos are Bs till we have a name that wont become a legal problem. if >>the flames keep up you can all go to hell >>- SHED >> >>> >>>Oh, my bad, you've added the useless transparency behind the file >>manager >>>window. Everything else is essentially BeOS R5. >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>[mailto:openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jess Tipton >>>Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:48 PM >>>To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more >>> >>> >>> >>>you obviously have didnt look at my R6 pictures & you cannot do this >>>with current systems >>>- SHED >>> >>>> >>>>Why? These are just the current BeOS with a different color >>applied? >>>>People can do this currently with BeOS and it demonstrates >>absolutely >>>>NOTHING this group is working on. >>>> >>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>From: openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>[mailto:openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Guy >>>>Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 7:09 PM >>>>To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>jeff, i want 2 of your screen shots in the artpack, can you quickly >>>tell me >>>>which ones to download from your site? >>>>(or quickly upload to the ftp?) >>>> >>>>im closing the pack right now.. >>>> >>>>guy. >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Jess Tipton" <Shed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 00:56 >>>>Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> sorry I agree with your logo concept but your logo on the >green bay >>>is >>>>> poor & low res, I would like our logo & UI to be of a cleaner & >>>stright >>>>> forward nature but by the same token not cartoony as Be's icons >>have >>>>> previously been. again I will offer my wallpapers Icons & ui >>designs >>>as >>>>> show. Along with others I do agree we need a new name. while the >>>legals >>>>> where hased out at soem point saying BeOS the trade mark was not >>>owned >>>>> by Palm things may have change & while we want to keep >>ties to Be's >>>>> reputation for speed stability & ease of use we need our own >>>identity. >>>>> I also agree that a "Mascot" is a bad idea. While we do want to >>>market >>>>> to average home users the ease of use should speak for it's self. >>no >>>>> one is going to walk through a store or dl an OS off the net just >>>cuz >>>>> it has a cute bear logo - or a cuddley cat. The few BeOS >>wallpapers >>>>> that had Bee's in them where plain stupid & that is NOT >what the BE >>>in >>>>> BeOS was about. it has nothing to do with an insect that most >>people >>>>> detest or fear. anyway enought ranting. my server is back up & i >>>hope >>>>> for good this time although the lines are still in question but >>here >>>>> again are a taste of my offering's. while rought they are still >>good >>>>> quality & I do a decent amount of design. >>>>> >>>>> http://24.72.15.175/bu/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> >Hash: SHA1 >>>>> > >>>>> >On Sunday 31 March 2002 16:04, you wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >OK. I'll wait... a little impatiently, but I'll wait. >>>>> > >>>>> >Some commentary, though, on the subject of a logo. >>>>> > >>>>> >As I understand it, Palm purchased BeOS. Therefore, they own >>BeOS, >>>>> lock, >>>>> >stock and barrel... this includes the trade name BeOS. I wonder >>>where >>>>> we >>>>> >stand on legal issues? This is something we ought to settle >>before >>>>> someone >>>>> >designs a logo using the BeOS trade name that we cannot use. >>>>> > >>>>> >One other item. This is only my opinion, but I really hate Tux, >>>the >>>>> penguin >>>>> >logo for Linux.. I also hate Abby the ant, the logo for Abiword >>>word >>>>> >processor. I could go on ad nauseum, but you get the idea. >>>>> > >>>>> >What is it about stuffed animal type cartoon animal's? Take a >>look >>>at >>>>> >Microsoft's logos... none of them are cute little critters. Few >>of >>>>> the more >>>>> >successful software packages use anything like that. They are >>>>> generally >>>>> >simple graphic designs >>>>> > >>>>> >Not to toot my own horn, but take a look at my own efforts on the >>>>> opening >>>>> >page of my webzine: http:www.thegreenbayweb.com. I used >the Intel >>>386 >>>>> >processor and the 387 co-processor in my logo because it was the >>>first >>>>> true >>>>> >multi-processor in general circulation... also, incidently, the >>>lowest >>>>> level >>>>> >processor that Linux can run on. Linux was then the only viable >>>>> alternative >>>>> >to Windows 95 available... at least as far as I knew. I >chose the >>>>> color >>>>> >green, again, as a retro attempt. Those of you here who are old >>>like >>>>> me may >>>>> >rember the old green monitors that things like the Televideo 608 >>>>> generally >>>>> >came with. I used an Old-English type font to emulate >the printed >>>>> newspaper >>>>> >titles that I hope to replace with my webzine concept. >My hope is >>>to >>>>> expand, >>>>> >change the format a bit and put the Green Bay Press >>Gazette out of >>>>> >business.... hey, I can dream, can't I? >>>>> > >>>>> >A logo should say something about the item or company it >>>represents. >>>>> If we >>>>> >use a cute little cartoon bee, what are we saying about >Open BeOS? >>>>> > >>>>> >I guess I am a proponant of more serious-looking logos. >Open BeOS >>>>> should be >>>>> >sharp, efficient, and businesslike. If we are going to challenge >>>>> Microsoft >>>>> >as well as LInux and BSD, our OS must be all that and more. The >>>logo >>>>> should >>>>> >reflect that. >>>>> > >>>>> >Now, if I offended anyone's efforts, please remember that I have >>>yet >>>>> to see >>>>> >any of your work due to server problems... but let the flaming >>>begin >>>>> anyway, >>>>> >I invited it! >>>>> > >>>>> >Dale >>>>> > >>>>> >> The forum is now on a free webhost, but soon it'll >move to a pay >>>>> one... So >>>>> >> i guess the problems will (or should) be solved. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> debro >>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> From: "Dale Raby" <daleraby@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:56 PM >>>>> >> Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more >>>>> >> >>>>> >> > debro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >>>>> >> > >http://openbetalk.host.sk >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >Check out the forum! >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >debro >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > >----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >> > >From: "David Goodrich" <goodrich@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> > >To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> > >Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 8:24 PM >>>>> >> > >Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > I have been unable to register, login, or view any of the >>>topics >>>>> on the >>>>> >> > CDT forum. It takes about five minutes just to load >the index >>>>> page with >>>>> >> > a 56K modem, and when I try to view any of the topics or hit >>>any >>>>> link >>>>> >> > within this page, my browser simply times out. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Is this a common problem? >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > If it is, I may have a solution: >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > http://www.thegreenbayweb.com/forums >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > This is my domain. There are two other websites there in >>>addition >>>>> to >>>>> >> > mine, and, so far as I am aware, no other forums. The server >>>has >>>>> a >>>>> >> > broadband cable connection and the other tennants don't seem >>to >>>be >>>>> >> > drawing large numbers of visitors... or at least I >seldom seem >>>to >>>>> have >>>>> >> > problems logging in. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > I don't know how this would work or if there are requirements >>I >>>am >>>>> >> > unaware of, but if it would help, I will be happy to >create an >>>>> Open BeOS >>>>> >> > forum on this BBS for us. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Any comments? >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > [dale's signature] >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Dale A. Raby >>>>> >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> >Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) >>>>> >Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org >>>>> > >>>>> >iD8DBQE8p5FF+fFNwqPnDWERAtwzAJ4whzXwM+13m+FE8VnEykgoFmajdACgqDV2 >>>>> >5wqjhm73ybBAYO3L/CTQAz4>=nAdC >>>>> >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >