sorry I agree with your logo concept but your logo on the green bay is poor & low res, I would like our logo & UI to be of a cleaner & stright forward nature but by the same token not cartoony as Be's icons have previously been. again I will offer my wallpapers Icons & ui designs as show. Along with others I do agree we need a new name. while the legals where hased out at soem point saying BeOS the trade mark was not owned by Palm things may have change & while we want to keep ties to Be's reputation for speed stability & ease of use we need our own identity. I also agree that a "Mascot" is a bad idea. While we do want to market to average home users the ease of use should speak for it's self. no one is going to walk through a store or dl an OS off the net just cuz it has a cute bear logo - or a cuddley cat. The few BeOS wallpapers that had Bee's in them where plain stupid & that is NOT what the BE in BeOS was about. it has nothing to do with an insect that most people detest or fear. anyway enought ranting. my server is back up & i hope for good this time although the lines are still in question but here again are a taste of my offering's. while rought they are still good quality & I do a decent amount of design. http://24.72.15.175/bu/ >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >On Sunday 31 March 2002 16:04, you wrote: > >OK. I'll wait... a little impatiently, but I'll wait. > >Some commentary, though, on the subject of a logo. > >As I understand it, Palm purchased BeOS. Therefore, they own BeOS, lock, >stock and barrel... this includes the trade name BeOS. I wonder where we >stand on legal issues? This is something we ought to settle before someone >designs a logo using the BeOS trade name that we cannot use. > >One other item. This is only my opinion, but I really hate Tux, the penguin >logo for Linux.. I also hate Abby the ant, the logo for Abiword word >processor. I could go on ad nauseum, but you get the idea. > >What is it about stuffed animal type cartoon animal's? Take a look at >Microsoft's logos... none of them are cute little critters. Few of the more >successful software packages use anything like that. They are generally >simple graphic designs > >Not to toot my own horn, but take a look at my own efforts on the opening >page of my webzine: http:www.thegreenbayweb.com. I used the Intel 386 >processor and the 387 co-processor in my logo because it was the first true >multi-processor in general circulation... also, incidently, the lowest level >processor that Linux can run on. Linux was then the only viable alternative >to Windows 95 available... at least as far as I knew. I chose the color >green, again, as a retro attempt. Those of you here who are old like me may >rember the old green monitors that things like the Televideo 608 generally >came with. I used an Old-English type font to emulate the printed newspaper >titles that I hope to replace with my webzine concept. My hope is to expand, >change the format a bit and put the Green Bay Press Gazette out of >business.... hey, I can dream, can't I? > >A logo should say something about the item or company it represents. If we >use a cute little cartoon bee, what are we saying about Open BeOS? > >I guess I am a proponant of more serious-looking logos. Open BeOS should be >sharp, efficient, and businesslike. If we are going to challenge Microsoft >as well as LInux and BSD, our OS must be all that and more. The logo should >reflect that. > >Now, if I offended anyone's efforts, please remember that I have yet to see >any of your work due to server problems... but let the flaming begin anyway, >I invited it! > >Dale > >> The forum is now on a free webhost, but soon it'll move to a pay one... So >> i guess the problems will (or should) be solved. >> >> debro >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dale Raby" <daleraby@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:56 PM >> Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more >> >> > debro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> > >http://openbetalk.host.sk >> > > >> > >Check out the forum! >> > > >> > >debro >> > > >> > >----- Original Message ----- >> > >From: "David Goodrich" <goodrich@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 8:24 PM >> > >Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more >> > >> > I have been unable to register, login, or view any of the topics on the >> > CDT forum. It takes about five minutes just to load the index page with >> > a 56K modem, and when I try to view any of the topics or hit any link >> > within this page, my browser simply times out. >> > >> > Is this a common problem? >> > >> > If it is, I may have a solution: >> > >> > http://www.thegreenbayweb.com/forums >> > >> > This is my domain. There are two other websites there in addition to >> > mine, and, so far as I am aware, no other forums. The server has a >> > broadband cable connection and the other tennants don't seem to be >> > drawing large numbers of visitors... or at least I seldom seem to have >> > problems logging in. >> > >> > I don't know how this would work or if there are requirements I am >> > unaware of, but if it would help, I will be happy to create an Open BeOS >> > forum on this BBS for us. >> > >> > Any comments? >> > >> > [dale's signature] >> > >> > Dale A. 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