Hi Kristof, and everyone, I'm not too keen on the BeOS IRC clients. If you really prefer IRC, recommend me a good BeOS client to try. In fact, how about BeShare, AIM or Jabber? Unless I am doing art or music, I am in BeOS so I'd prefer not to rely on some non-BeOS communication method. I don't mind trying to help with organization, but I think the needed and desired structure-parameters have already been asked for. It just needs to be implimented. More than that, we need to agree on a level of professionalism. Oh, and I'm in the eastern US timezone. Oh, Guy, you really should consider your role more like a boss at a business than as a "cheerleader." Come to that, we're all cheerleaders, so we don't need that many cheerleaders. We need a boss and workers. What's needed is a task-master with a strict view on what professional work should look like, a list of requirements, a list of expectations, a list of definitions, etc. I'd rather take this whole thing professionally; boss and work assignments with parameters. Instead of a loose bunch of random acts of "art" held together by the name CDT. This is supposed to be the OpenBeOS Creative Design Team, not just any old CDT. Throwing a bunch of random Be-related materials at the community just isn't the best idea if the desired end result of OBOS is a recognizable, consistent and stable OS and image. First impressions last. -Jace >Hi everyone > >Hope you all had a great Eastertime. First I really >hope nobody wants to leave the team again. I realize >that it's difficult to please everyone. From >experience as webdesigner I know that you can not put >a group of people together and hope a design comes out >that pleases everyone. > >Now I'm aware it's not an easy task for Guy to get >things organized here. First of all it's easier to >organize a team of programmers, they are by nature >more organised ;-) , but organization is a necessary >evil as they say here. Guy lives in Israel and I bet >the situation there preoccupies him now, what makes >the organization of this large group not an easy task. > >Now I've noticed that a few people here like Stubear, >Debro, Jace ...etc, although we may have different >opinions on how things should be done we are thinking >along the same lines concerning the organization of >the group. So I suggest that those who would like to >get things organized get together with Guy and set up >a plan. I mean not everyone is interested in setting >up a plan and do organizational stuff, I realize most >of you guys are creative people who want to do their >stuff and it's up to the teamlead to provide >guidelines. > >So instead of everyone bitching around that things are >so poorly organised let's get things started. First >I'd like to ask who wants to be part in setting up a >structure, I'm talking about timeframes, >planningstages, communication etc. Just the stuff to >get organized nothing more than this at this stage. > >Communication is important and Irc could help but do >realize not everyone lives in the US and timezones can >make this difficult. So a good forum is not so bad >afterall. > >So my idea is everyone who wants to take part in the >organisation replies with this name and email, then we >try to get together on irc or by any other means. It >will be easier to get things started with a smaller >group. >Kristof aka BeAdingo ----------------------------------- This message was sent with the demo version of Postmaster, a BeOS mail client. For more information, please visit http://kennyc.com/postmaster