[openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more

  • From: "Jess Tipton" <Shed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 18:56:05 CST

First off my name is JESS, 
I can take constructive critisism but so far this is just insane. 
nothing but flames every one flaming every one & every thing & I still 
dont know what ui options are going to be supported. I joined this to 
help Design system sounds & UI look. Right now every one seems set on 
doing logos & such but really this is a dead end disscussion till a 
real name is picked. FIRST off we need to know WHAT in the OS can we 
design for & PICK A NAME. OBOS is fine for now but the reality is at 
some point using BeOS any where in the name could become a legal hold 
up & I dont know about you but I dont have the money to pitch in on 
legal advice. 
- SHED

>
>jeff.. 
>you have to listen to all comments. Some are bad, some are good. but
>this is large team and people have different views.
>I personally do not like your screenshots. I can argument this if you
>want. 
>Someone does not like icons I made and it only helps me to create 
right
>direction. I take only critics with good argument as serious.
>-boris
>
>>
>>
>>dude your a retard you cant do colors or set ups like that . 
>>This team is not only disorganized but nothing but a hate fest OBOS 
>>needs & name & we need to work on ui skins if it will be supported 
>>logos are Bs till we have a name that wont become a legal problem. if 
>>the flames keep up you can all go to hell
>>- SHED
>>
>>>
>>>Oh, my bad, you've added the useless transparency behind the file
>>manager
>>>window.  Everything else is essentially BeOS R5.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>[mailto:openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jess Tipton
>>>Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:48 PM
>>>To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>you obviously have didnt look at my R6 pictures & you cannot do this 
>>>with current systems
>>>- SHED
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Why?  These are just the current BeOS with a different color 
>>applied? 
>>>>People can do this currently with BeOS and it demonstrates 
>>absolutely 
>>>>NOTHING this group is working on.
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>>[mailto:openbeos-cdt-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Guy
>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 7:09 PM
>>>>To: openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>jeff, i want 2 of your screen shots in the artpack, can you quickly
>>>tell me
>>>>which ones to download from your site?
>>>>(or quickly upload to the ftp?)
>>>>
>>>>im closing the pack right now..
>>>>
>>>>guy.
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Jess Tipton" <Shed@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 00:56
>>>>Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry I agree with your logo concept but your logo on the green 
bay
>>>is
>>>>> poor & low res, I would like our logo & UI to be of a cleaner &
>>>stright
>>>>> forward nature but by the same token not cartoony as Be's icons
>>have
>>>>> previously been. again I will offer my wallpapers Icons & ui
>>designs
>>>as
>>>>> show. Along with others I do agree we need a new name. while the
>>>legals
>>>>> where hased out at soem point saying BeOS the trade mark was not
>>>owned
>>>>> by Palm things may have change & while we want to keep 
>>ties to Be's 
>>>>> reputation for speed stability & ease of use we need our own
>>>identity.
>>>>> I also agree that a "Mascot" is a bad idea. While we do want to
>>>market
>>>>> to average home users the ease of use should speak for it's self.
>>no
>>>>> one is going to walk through a store or dl an OS off the net just
>>>cuz
>>>>> it has a cute bear logo - or a cuddley cat. The few BeOS 
>>wallpapers 
>>>>> that had Bee's in them where plain stupid & that is NOT what the 
BE
>>>in
>>>>> BeOS was about. it has nothing to do with an insect that most
>>people
>>>>> detest or fear. anyway enought ranting. my server is back up & i
>>>hope
>>>>> for good this time although the lines are still in question but
>>here
>>>>> again are a taste of my offering's. while rought they are still
>>good
>>>>> quality & I do a decent amount of design.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://24.72.15.175/bu/
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>> >
>>>>> >On Sunday 31 March 2002 16:04, you wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >OK.  I'll wait... a little impatiently, but I'll wait.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Some commentary, though, on the subject of a logo.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >As I understand it, Palm purchased BeOS.  Therefore, they own
>>BeOS,
>>>>> lock,
>>>>> >stock and barrel... this includes the trade name BeOS.  I wonder
>>>where
>>>>> we
>>>>> >stand on legal issues?  This is something we ought to settle
>>before
>>>>> someone
>>>>> >designs a logo using the BeOS trade name that we cannot use.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >One other item.  This is only my opinion, but I really hate Tux,
>>>the
>>>>> penguin
>>>>> >logo for Linux..  I also hate Abby the ant, the logo for Abiword
>>>word
>>>>> >processor.  I could go on ad nauseum, but you get the idea.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >What is it about stuffed animal type cartoon animal's?  Take a
>>look
>>>at
>>>>> >Microsoft's logos... none of them are cute little critters.  Few
>>of
>>>>> the more
>>>>> >successful software packages use anything like that.  They are
>>>>> generally
>>>>> >simple graphic designs
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Not to toot my own horn, but take a look at my own efforts on 
the
>>>>> opening
>>>>> >page of my webzine: http:www.thegreenbayweb.com.  I used the 
Intel
>>>386
>>>>> >processor and the 387 co-processor in my logo because it was the
>>>first
>>>>> true
>>>>> >multi-processor in general circulation... also, incidently, the
>>>lowest
>>>>> level
>>>>> >processor that Linux can run on.  Linux was then the only viable
>>>>> alternative
>>>>> >to Windows 95 available... at least as far as I knew.  I chose 
the
>>>>> color
>>>>> >green, again, as a retro attempt.  Those of you here who are old
>>>like
>>>>> me may
>>>>> >rember the old green monitors that things like the Televideo 608
>>>>> generally
>>>>> >came with.  I used an Old-English type font to emulate the 
printed
>>>>> newspaper
>>>>> >titles that I hope to replace with my webzine concept.  My hope 
is
>>>to
>>>>> expand,
>>>>> >change the format a bit and put the Green Bay Press 
>>Gazette out of 
>>>>> >business.... hey, I can dream, can't I?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >A logo should say something about the item or company it
>>>represents.
>>>>> If we
>>>>> >use a cute little cartoon bee, what are we saying about Open 
BeOS?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >I guess I am a proponant of more serious-looking logos.  Open 
BeOS
>>>>> should be
>>>>> >sharp, efficient, and businesslike.  If we are going to 
challenge
>>>>> Microsoft
>>>>> >as well as LInux and BSD, our OS must be all that and more.  The
>>>logo
>>>>> should
>>>>> >reflect that.
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Now, if I offended anyone's efforts, please remember that I have
>>>yet
>>>>> to see
>>>>> >any of your work due to server problems... but let the flaming
>>>begin
>>>>> anyway,
>>>>> >I invited it!
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Dale
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> The forum is now on a free webhost, but soon it'll move to a 
pay
>>>>> one... So
>>>>> >> i guess the problems will (or should) be solved.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> debro
>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> From: "Dale Raby" <daleraby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:56 PM
>>>>> >> Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > debro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>>> >> > >http://openbetalk.host.sk
>>>>> >> > >
>>>>> >> > >Check out the forum!
>>>>> >> > >
>>>>> >> > >debro
>>>>> >> > >
>>>>> >> > >----- Original Message -----
>>>>> >> > >From: "David Goodrich" <goodrich@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> > >To: <openbeos-cdt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> >> > >Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 8:24 PM
>>>>> >> > >Subject: [openbeos-cdt] Re: Design Stuff ... and more
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I have been unable to register, login, or view any of the
>>>topics
>>>>> on the
>>>>> >> > CDT forum.  It takes about five minutes just to load the 
index
>>>>> page with
>>>>> >> > a 56K modem, and when I try to view any of the topics or hit
>>>any
>>>>> link
>>>>> >> > within this page, my browser simply times out.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Is this a common problem?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > If it is, I may have a solution:
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > http://www.thegreenbayweb.com/forums
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > This is my domain.  There are two other websites there in
>>>addition
>>>>> to
>>>>> >> > mine, and, so far as I am aware, no other forums.  The 
server
>>>has
>>>>> a
>>>>> >> > broadband cable connection and the other tennants don't seem
>>to
>>>be
>>>>> >> > drawing large numbers of visitors... or at least I seldom 
seem
>>>to
>>>>> have
>>>>> >> > problems logging in.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I don't know how this would work or if there are 
requirements
>>I
>>>am
>>>>> >> > unaware of, but if it would help, I will be happy to create 
an
>>>>> Open BeOS
>>>>> >> > forum on this BBS for us.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Any comments?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > [dale's signature]
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > Dale A. Raby
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