Hi John (oops, the answer slipped out before it was ready) >> As explained on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitDefender and on >> www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-14-en--BitDefender-Free-Edition.html, the >> free version of BitDefender does not have realtime protection, which is >> a must for real protection. It's not a good idea to recommend this >> product to normal users. It's useless except to scan the computer if one >> wants to make sure one's normal antivirus program has missed something. > > I'm not sure how much good this real time protection provides. If your antivirus doesn't have real-time protection (often called "guard" or "shield"), it won't prevent any infection by any malware, even by all the malware it knows about. Basically, an AV without RT is less than worthless because it gives people a false sense of security. > Perhaps it is because the setup here has a NAT firewall, Hosts file > protection, Spywareblaster and other measures keeping things out. > If a system was relying on dialup alone I would expect the problems you > mention. Such things are extremely rare here, and usually result from > doing something stupid. On the contrary, you need real-time protection even more on a broadband connection. Firewalls and the other things you list do not prevent infections due to people running infected email attachments and infected programs they download, which is how most people get infected. And yes, most infections are due to stupidity. If people didn't open attachments or install programs that aren't from a trustworthy source, they would probably never get infected even without antivirus and without antispyware. -- -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.