Hi Scott > I installed AVG 8 on a customers computer earlier this week (the only > reason I don't use AntiVir is the popup message), and liked it. It's easy to turn off by using ProcessGuard http://www.diamondcs.com.au/processguard, which i think everyone should have anyhow. (There are also other easy solutions, but these are more geeky, including: Disable AntiVir Notifier in Windows XP Home Edition: 1. Boot into safe mode 2. Log in as Administrator 3. Go to C:\Program Files\AntiVir PersonalEdition Classic\avnotify.exe right click on it in Explorer, go to Properties->Security->Advanced->Edit then select the option to not let it execute for all users. 4. Reboot into regular Windows. > Effective antivirus programs: > > The April edition of Virus Bulletin announced that 5 programs scored > 100%: > Avira Antivir Personal > ESET NOD32 > Fortinet FortiClient > Frisk FPROT Antivirus > Symantec Norton Antivirus > > Of those, only AntiVir is free. While these results are close to those obtained by better and more scientific methods, it seems that Virus Bulletin's methods are flawed and not independent. It's associated with some big virus vendor and bases its results mainly on testing for huge amounts of viruses of which most are already "extinct" instead of testing for what's really going around right now. www.av-comparatives.org is much, much more reliable. > Well, perhaps I should take another look at Avira AntiVir. It's really quite amazing due to the combination of highest number of updates, fastest update after virus outbreak, and by far the highest detection of new, unknown malware through heuristic analysis. I've seen some incredible statistic charts, but i couldn't find them quickly now. I think they were at the above site. > For those who want a short summary, 2 programs get a 100% rating, and > both are free. Comodo, of which I've heard much good, is one of the > two; I installed it on a customer's computer the other day and liked > it. It has modes for training (on a clean computer) and for > installing. I tried it and found it quite confusing, and i kept running into some problem. I don't really remember the details, but i do remember i really tried to find something else besides the Sunbelt firewall, which i thought was the only excellent free one, and i was very disappointed. I'll have to try it again. > Zone Alarm scores 74%. Norton, Sunbelt, Avira, AVG, PC Tools, McAfee, > Windows Live OneCare, and BitDefender firewalls scored 18% or less. The Sunbelt result is very surprising. I'll have to look at the results and look for a new free alternative. -- -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.