Hi Jackie > I have WU on auto Do you mean Windows Update? What does that have to do with this topic? > mine is free its ongoing testing Do you mean Windows Live OneCare? I assume it's not easy to get it free since you spent so much time trying to find "good" deals on line for Pen. > I also got my router configure too plus the cable and phone modem before > I I had the cable modem as far as the firewall is concern. I don't understand what you're trying to say. > But you never > know these days- nothing is secure -- can you tell me where you got your > stats from please? My son has gone through many antiviruses and he manages > to pick those trojans or viruses up somehow he hasn't tried WLOC yet-- > WLOC is always being tested and its never stops with its advancement I > thought it was second from the top but not sure... The best place to start looking for info nowadays is usually Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Live_OneCare#Criticism bases the following on tests by the best and, AFAIK, only scientific AV testing organisation, to which it also provides a link. Avira AntiVir was the best: AV-Comparatives.org also released results that placed Windows Live OneCare last in its testing of seventeen anti-virus products. In response, Jimmy Kuo of the Microsoft Security Research and Response (MSRR) team pledged to add "truly important" ("actively being spread") malware as soon as possible, while "[test detection] numbers will get better and better" for other malware "until they are on par with the other majors in this arena." He also expressed confidence in these improvements: "Soon after, [other majors] will need to catch up to us!" Since then AV-Comparatives.org has upgraded Windows Live OneCare placement in their anti-virus lineup to second worst in its testing of seventeen anti-virus products. -- -------list-services-below----------- Regards, John Durham (list moderator) <http://modecideas.com/contact.html?sig> Freelists login at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi List archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/pchelpers PC-HELPERS list subscribe/unsub at http://modecideas.com/discuss.htm?sig Latest news live feeds at http://modecideas.com/indexhomenews.htm?sig Good advice is like good paint- it only works if applied.