Thank you brother Dave for the explanation, It just seemed to me to be dangerous to have to hook the shackle in place and tighten the turnbuckle screw when a Janney automatic knuckle coupler would solve the entire problem. 'Course it might not work well with the buffers in there. Vacuum bag? Wazzit? Jesse in windy warm Tenn-o-see > Having "hooked on" many times on the SVR, (the fireman has to do it every > trip, we don't have dedicated shunters), it is all in the knack. I always > try and get the driver to ease the loco onto the stock, well compressing > the > buffers so I don't have to wind the screw very far. For a safety > precaution, > take the vacuum bag off the loco before you do anything else, this > minimises > any chance of the loco moving whilst you are between. Then crawl into the > limited space and swing the shackle, weighing around half hundredweight, > onto the hook ant tighten the screw untill there are two threads showing. > Finally, connect the vacuum bags and exit the track. When we have gala > weekends with demonstration loose coupled freights, I have, in the past > used > a shunters pole for swinging the 3-link shackles, the do not have screw > thread adjusters and this is a knack in itself although, it is almost > impossible to use a pole to hook on a screw shackle due to the weight. I > have watched professional shunters at work with poles and it is an art. > > Dave. MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.