I also vote for the 45% Easy-Flo. Al Messer --- Terry Lane <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Dunno about where you are Dave, but here in Oz > silver solder is the only > acceptable way to go. > > > > many thanks Harry your a wealth of info in > pictures , it's much > appreciated > > > > as an aside , I came across this copper brazing > alloy , has anyone > > experience of it I wonder , although I will take > your advice and use > silver > > soldering > > > > > > Copper brazing alloy SF-1 UK. No flux needed on > copper for air con pipe > work > > ,Heating Systems repair.water pipes and > refrigeration also electrical > > connections Heat Exchangers Very handy brazing > alloy to have in van or > work > > shop. 10 sticks x 2.5 x 1 x 450mm made by > Thermodyne USA Mil spec > > MIL-C-20158. A1T Grade111 Melting range 1471+- 6 > F Brazing Range > 1350-1500 > > F Use in place of > Silver Solder on Copper > > pipework etc > > > > regards > > Dave > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Harry Wade" <hww@xxxxxxxx> > > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:39 PM > > Subject: [modeleng] Re: boiler making > > > > > > > At 09:25 PM 1/6/06 -0000, you wrote: > > >>ok where do I start , building a boiler for the > first time > > > > > > Dave, > > > The pictures are at > > > > <http://bbs.livesteam.net/ubbs/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Any+Time > > > > ,+Any+Place,+Any+Gauge&number=1&DaysPrune=45&LastLogin=> > Look for > threads > > > "New Boiler Start", and "New Boiler - Cont'd." > > > > > >>is silver soldering the best > > > > > > Yes, preferrably with an approximately 45% > silver content alloy. > > > Brazing is now not an approved process because a > brass should not be any > > > permanent part of the boiler structure. > > > > > >>as I have access to propane / oxy and oxy / > acetal gear although I will > > >>admit to being a full blown novice with welding > gear , but willing to > > >>learn > > > > > > You will benefit having. Propane is > preferred, as long as you have > > > sufficiently large burners (tips). An > oxy/acetyl "rosebud" tip will > also > > > do the job. > > > > > >>as I will need to make the flange plates too is > their any good > techniques > > >>so any major trauma's to avoid with the plague > etc , or am I just > creating > > >>long term problems for myself , so that's it , > advice is sought from > the > > >>knowledgeable list .. > > > > > > As with any task, practice makes for a better > job, however with > careful > > > reading and experiecned guidance a great many > first-timers have done > quite > > > well. > > > FYI, once upon a time (in the 1990's), I > discovered that I could buy > > > ready-formed heads from Reeves, for instance, > for popular British > designs > > > (Simplex being one) cheaper than I could buy the > raw copper material > over > > > here, AND save the time needed to make the > formers. I suspect prices > are > > > now quite a bit higher but you should still have > no difficulty finding a > > > supplier of formed heads should you decide to > forego the forming > process. > > > However heads are only one of several components > which will need forms > of > > > one kind or another. > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > Harry Wade > > > Nashville Tennessee > > > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank > email to, > > > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the > subject > > > line. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 > - Release Date: > > > 01/05/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.14/222 - > Release Date: > 01/05/2006 > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject > line. > > > > MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. > > To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email > to, > modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > "unsubscribe" in the subject line. > __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com MODEL ENGINEERING DISCUSSION LIST. To UNSUBSCRIBE from this list, send a blank email to, modeleng-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.