[modeleng] Re: boiler making

  • From: Allen Messer <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 05:30:08 -0800 (PST)

I also vote for the 45% Easy-Flo.

Al Messer

--- Terry Lane <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dunno about where you are Dave, but here in Oz
> silver solder is the only
> acceptable way to go.
> 
> 
> > many thanks Harry your a wealth of info in
> pictures , it's much
> appreciated
> >
> > as an aside , I came across this copper brazing
> alloy , has anyone
> > experience of it I wonder , although I will take
> your advice and use
> silver
> > soldering
> >
> >
> > Copper brazing alloy SF-1 UK. No flux needed on
> copper for air con pipe
> work
> > ,Heating Systems  repair.water pipes and
> refrigeration also electrical
> > connections Heat Exchangers Very handy brazing
> alloy to have in van or
> work
> > shop. 10 sticks x 2.5 x 1 x 450mm made by
> Thermodyne USA Mil spec
> > MIL-C-20158.   A1T Grade111 Melting range 1471+- 6
> F Brazing Range
> 1350-1500
> > F                              Use in place of
> Silver Solder on Copper
> > pipework etc
> >
> >  regards
> > Dave
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harry Wade" <hww@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:39 PM
> > Subject: [modeleng] Re: boiler making
> >
> >
> > > At 09:25 PM 1/6/06 -0000, you wrote:
> > >>ok where do I start , building a boiler for the
> first time
> > >
> > > Dave,
> > >   The pictures are at
> > >
>
<http://bbs.livesteam.net/ubbs/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Any+Time
> > >
>
,+Any+Place,+Any+Gauge&number=1&DaysPrune=45&LastLogin=>
>  Look for
> threads
> > > "New Boiler Start", and "New Boiler - Cont'd."
> > >
> > >>is silver soldering the best
> > >
> > >    Yes, preferrably with an approximately 45%
> silver content alloy.
> > > Brazing is now not an approved process because a
> brass should not be any
> > > permanent part of the boiler structure.
> > >
> > >>as I have access to propane / oxy and oxy /
> acetal gear although I will
> > >>admit to being a full blown novice with welding
> gear , but willing to
> > >>learn
> > >
> > >     You will benefit having.  Propane is
> preferred, as long as you have
> > > sufficiently large burners (tips).  An
> oxy/acetyl "rosebud" tip will
> also
> > > do the job.
> > >
> > >>as I will need to make the flange plates too is
> their any good
> techniques
> > >>so any major trauma's to avoid with the plague
> etc , or am I just
> creating
> > >>long term problems for myself  , so that's it  ,
> advice is sought from
> the
> > >>knowledgeable list ..
> > >
> > >    As with any task, practice makes for a better
> job, however with
> careful
> > > reading and experiecned guidance a great many
> first-timers have done
> quite
> > > well.
> > >    FYI, once upon a time (in the 1990's), I
> discovered that I could buy
> > > ready-formed heads from Reeves, for instance,
> for popular British
> designs
> > > (Simplex being one) cheaper than I could buy the
> raw copper material
> over
> > > here, AND save the time needed to make the
> formers.   I suspect prices
> are
> > > now quite a bit higher but you should still have
> no difficulty finding a
> > > supplier of formed heads should you decide to
> forego the forming
> process.
> > > However heads are only one of several components
> which will need forms
> of
> > > one kind or another.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Harry Wade
> > > Nashville  Tennessee
> > >
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