[modeleng] Re: boiler making
- From: "dud.one" <dud.one@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2006 13:34:55 -0000
thanks everyone for the advice and info , your replies are very much
appreciated .
Dave
Hartlepool
UK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Allen Messer" <al_messer@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 1:30 PM
Subject: [modeleng] Re: boiler making
>I also vote for the 45% Easy-Flo.
>
> Al Messer
>
> --- Terry Lane <tel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Dunno about where you are Dave, but here in Oz
>> silver solder is the only
>> acceptable way to go.
>>
>>
>> > many thanks Harry your a wealth of info in
>> pictures , it's much
>> appreciated
>> >
>> > as an aside , I came across this copper brazing
>> alloy , has anyone
>> > experience of it I wonder , although I will take
>> your advice and use
>> silver
>> > soldering
>> >
>> >
>> > Copper brazing alloy SF-1 UK. No flux needed on
>> copper for air con pipe
>> work
>> > ,Heating Systems repair.water pipes and
>> refrigeration also electrical
>> > connections Heat Exchangers Very handy brazing
>> alloy to have in van or
>> work
>> > shop. 10 sticks x 2.5 x 1 x 450mm made by
>> Thermodyne USA Mil spec
>> > MIL-C-20158. A1T Grade111 Melting range 1471+- 6
>> F Brazing Range
>> 1350-1500
>> > F Use in place of
>> Silver Solder on Copper
>> > pipework etc
>> >
>> > regards
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Harry Wade" <hww@xxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <modeleng@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:39 PM
>> > Subject: [modeleng] Re: boiler making
>> >
>> >
>> > > At 09:25 PM 1/6/06 -0000, you wrote:
>> > >>ok where do I start , building a boiler for the
>> first time
>> > >
>> > > Dave,
>> > > The pictures are at
>> > >
>>
> <http://bbs.livesteam.net/ubbs/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Any+Time
>> > >
>>
> ,+Any+Place,+Any+Gauge&number=1&DaysPrune=45&LastLogin=>
>> Look for
>> threads
>> > > "New Boiler Start", and "New Boiler - Cont'd."
>> > >
>> > >>is silver soldering the best
>> > >
>> > > Yes, preferrably with an approximately 45%
>> silver content alloy.
>> > > Brazing is now not an approved process because a
>> brass should not be any
>> > > permanent part of the boiler structure.
>> > >
>> > >>as I have access to propane / oxy and oxy /
>> acetal gear although I will
>> > >>admit to being a full blown novice with welding
>> gear , but willing to
>> > >>learn
>> > >
>> > > You will benefit having. Propane is
>> preferred, as long as you have
>> > > sufficiently large burners (tips). An
>> oxy/acetyl "rosebud" tip will
>> also
>> > > do the job.
>> > >
>> > >>as I will need to make the flange plates too is
>> their any good
>> techniques
>> > >>so any major trauma's to avoid with the plague
>> etc , or am I just
>> creating
>> > >>long term problems for myself , so that's it ,
>> advice is sought from
>> the
>> > >>knowledgeable list ..
>> > >
>> > > As with any task, practice makes for a better
>> job, however with
>> careful
>> > > reading and experiecned guidance a great many
>> first-timers have done
>> quite
>> > > well.
>> > > FYI, once upon a time (in the 1990's), I
>> discovered that I could buy
>> > > ready-formed heads from Reeves, for instance,
>> for popular British
>> designs
>> > > (Simplex being one) cheaper than I could buy the
>> raw copper material
>> over
>> > > here, AND save the time needed to make the
>> formers. I suspect prices
>> are
>> > > now quite a bit higher but you should still have
>> no difficulty finding a
>> > > supplier of formed heads should you decide to
>> forego the forming
>> process.
>> > > However heads are only one of several components
>> which will need forms
>> of
>> > > one kind or another.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Harry Wade
>> > > Nashville Tennessee
>> > >
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