Omar Kusturica wrote: "I think that you are confusing the authority of government with the authority of state." No, the confusion is yours. There is no such thing as the 'authority of state' apart from the historical instances of people ordering themselves under a particular form of government. Omar: "I have tried to avoid personal insults, but apparently Phil hasn't got such scruples." Lovely, coming as it does from a person who settles his differences by beating people up. Again, typical of the zealot. Sincerely, Phil Enns Toronto, ON ------------------------------------------------------------------ To change your Lit-Ideas settings (subscribe/unsub, vacation on/off, digest on/off), visit www.andreas.com/faq-lit-ideas.html