[lit-ideas] Re: FW: Re: ] Hillary Clinton Speaks Up for israel at U.N.Rally
- From: Carol Kirschenbaum <carolkir@xxxxxxxx>
- To: lit-ideas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:28:16 -0700
it was pretty obvious that Saddam was
> provoking the Bush administration and that the Bush administration was
> intent on responding to...
ck: This was not at all "obvious," Phil. In fact, it's at the center of
Bush's dubious case for "preemptive" war, a position that's now in the dust.
Bush insisted that Saddam had WMDs, Saddam insisted he didn't--and you call
that "provocation" BY SADDAM? But there followed insults and threats, which
Saddam responded to in kind. Face-saving gestures. What were Saddam's
options? Bush cornered him. He denied having WMDs. Then he tried to scare
Bush off--anything to stop an invasion. He had no army to fight with, and he
left! His so-called army left, too, or surrendered! This was such a terrible
farce that the US intelligence on Iraq had to be called into question.
I'd say you have your gorillas confused. Bush muscled into Iraq. Then what?
Duh. We're a mighty gorilla growling and swiping our way pretty dumbly
through the world. Too bad Bush doesn't believe in evolution.
Carol
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From: "Phil Enns" <phil.enns@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: FW: Re: ] Hillary Clinton Speaks Up for israel at
U.N.Rally
> Carol Kirschenbaum wrote:
>
> "Who/what is the gorilla in the room (whose room?)? And who/what is
> running and hiding?"
>
> In the case of Iraq, it might be Saddam's regime which provoked the U.S.
> gorilla. Whatever one might think about the U.S. in Iraq, in the time
> leading up to the invasion it was pretty obvious that Saddam was
> provoking the Bush administration and that the Bush administration was
> intent on responding to the provocation. Then, when the much
> anticipated invasion came, Saddam and his goons hide in the villages
> where they use the locals as cover for their 'resistance'. That would
> be a bad government.
>
> In the case of the Palestinians, Hamas is elected and promptly provokes
> the Israeli government. Whatever one might of the Israeli occupation,
> it was pretty obvious that they would go back strong into Gaza. Then
> Hamas fighters hide among the Palestinian population where they use the
> locals as cover for their 'resistance'. That would be a bad government.
>
> A militarily weak government that blatantly provokes an overwhelmingly
> militarily-superior nation is a bad government because it fails to do
> what governments are supposed to do, that is look out for the well-being
> of its citizens. Unless one is an ideologue in which case the loss of
> one's fellow citizens is a necessary part of the 'cause'.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Phil Enns
> Toronto, ON
>
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