This is a little extreme, but short of sending the unit back to Castle, the solution might be 'a hair of the dog that bit you'. If whichever kind person sent you a copy of their 516 !restore would let you borrow their video card for a day or two, you could insert that and presumably boot up to a desktop and do some repairs or rollbacks before going back to your old card. On the other hand... maybe it all starts to sound too much like the little old lady who swallowed a horse... -Neil F. -----Original Message----- From: iyonix-support-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:iyonix-support-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Doug Webb Sent: 05 June 2012 10:30 To: iyonix-support@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [iyonix-support] Re: Help with 5.18 error In message <49320.109.176.205.253.1338887704.squirrel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx .co.uk> david.rooke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Doug (and others) >>First can you see if you can get a validation beep out of the machine >>by doing F12 and the VDU 7 as I suggested and if you have a MAC then >>you could try pinging the Iyonix from the Mac. Failing knowing how to >>do the latter have a look at your router stats to see if the Iyonix is >>connected to the network. > There is no beep after the "clunk" on attempting to Boot. There is no > validation beep after either f12, VDU7 or f12, *BASIC, VDU7 or f12, > CTRL G or f12, *BASIC, CTRL G > I tried each of these in sequence, then again by inserting f12 *QUIT > between each attempt. > On trying to 'ping' the Iyonix I get "Host not found". OK suggests not getting to a point RISC OS is fully initialised. >> >> Also did you remove the softload from your Boot sequence? >> [snip] > >> >> If you are not fully initialising RISC OS then it may have to be sent >>back to Castle or perhaps CJE may be able to help. > If, as I suspect, I have to return to Castle can anyone let me have a > current telephone number or email address for John Ballance/Castle. I > can't seem to find anything up-to-date via Google > Thanks I attach some details from Robert Sprowson, hopefully I've got that correct, aka Sprow who has done some work on the RISC OS sources but can't post here but I think given the above it may not help. Doug "I'm not sure that a clean download of 5.16 from the RISC OS Open website will help recover the original state, here's why I conclude that. Normal install procedure: ROM 5.16 + knowledge of NVidia. Softload 5.18 + reads NVidia info from ROM 5.16. ROM 5.18 + installer reads NVidia info from ROM 5.16 (or softload, doesn't matter) What's happened is: ROM 5.16 + knowledge of NVidia. Softload 5.18 + reads NVidia info from ROM 5.16. ROM 5.18 + installer reads NVidia info from ROM 5.16 (or softload, doesn't matter) ROM 5.16 restore from alien NVidia, losing the original. And the attempt to recover: ROM 5.16 + knowledge of NVidia. Softload 5.18 + reads NVidia info from ROM 5.16. ROM 5.18 + installer reads NVidia info from ROM 5.16 (or softload, doesn't matter) ROM 5.16 restore from alien NVidia, losing the original. Clean ROM 5.16 copies alien NVidia setup from ROM 5.16. Softload 5.18 copies alien NVidia setup from ROM 5.16. The way out of this loop (I think) is to use the !Restore518 that must have been created when the alien 5.16 was installed to get back to some semblance of video. Then apply the clean 5.16 ROM from ROOL's webpage. Or, of course, figure out why !FTPc didn't work seems altogether more easy since there's no practical difference between the networking in a softloaded versus ROM OS, Robert." -- See and experience the future using ARM Technology - BeagleBoard -xM, Cortex A8 and RISC OS 5.19. --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support List-related queries to iyonix-support-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2433/5046 - Release Date: 06/05/12 --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support List-related queries to iyonix-support-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx