None taken,Just to do you the honour of some courtesy and carry out the rules of netiquette so necessary to avoid wars, taking sides and flaming on good lists...and , in the interests of free speech and the 4th Amendment, and, hopefully, not wasting too much of your obviously, very valuable time...and mine...or take you by surprise, I hereby give notice that I will be opening a new thread on freelists@ Cryptome later on today which caters for the people described below in your posting...This will allow you to set up rules on your computer which will dump the content and metadata before you read it, and hopefully remove any offence which my dribbling and ravings, or therantings and moanings of others, as well as attempting to comply with your wish. All it will require is for other of l like mind and ilk body defects who may wish to partake of such ramblings and ranting, to comply with posting to that particular thread. And, as we have a number of people on this list who suffer from similar disabilities such as age, a love of their wrong ethnic cultural backgrounds, and various forms of advanced dementia, and a poor public performance and sever lack of public duty. With my most humble and sincere apologies...And I do apologise once again for being off-topic and including your and my post in the above thread...
Douglas Rankine. On 05/07/14 08:43, In Harms Way wrote:
No personal attack, just a wish: Internet security - like real security in non-virtual life - is no field for old men with calcified brain-wiring. Please refrain from moaning and demoralization attempts here and kindly exchange your personal veteran stories, which are only exhibiting that you didn't do anything tangible for the greater good when you had the chance to do something, as well as your family history constructs in direct mails - and off this list, please. IHW doug wrote, On 04/07/2014 23:53:Dear Peter, Tx for that. I won't waste your time. I agree. TAO doesn't need access to a wireless router. It just takes what comes in to the ISP installs what it wants and takes delivery. Anything else is a waste of time, resources and learning processes. Thank you for your contribution. Nice to have ones feelings substantiated. Although, I have to say, that I haven't a clue as to the techy side of it. Interesting that most of the hardware is produced in China...Makes one laugh when one thinks on it. ATB Dougie. On 04/07/14 18:30, Peter Presland wrote:I hesitate to jump in on this because I haven't the time for extended discussion but a couple of points: 1. The document detailing the router backdoor is no hoax. It simply confirms in clear (to a competent techie) technical language and simple tests, that later generations of BT routers (and probably most/all other proprietary ones too by now) do indeed have a backdoor that can be used (among other things) to route traffic from your computer to an NSA/GCHQ nominated destination additional to the one you specify with your browser links clicks, or other clients. What is then done with it is moot. The additional routing is remote switchable by you-know-who. 2. Todd Judge's suggestion merely allows you to analyse exactly where the outbound traffic from your router is being sent. There really is little point in trying to block any 'rogue' outbound addresses either, because the technique is fast becoming ubiquitous. What you need to understand, clearly and unambiguously is that there is no hiding place. If, for whatever reason you become a POI to NSA/GCHQ or pretty much any law-enforcement agency, then they have the ability to target, intercept and read everything you do. The best you can do is maybe make life a little more difficult than automatic dead-easy for them by using assorted encryption/privatisation techniques; but if they focus their entire capability at you - well forget it, you may as well CC them with everything. PeterP On 04/07/2014 17:13, Neal Lamb wrote:Nice interview http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-with-nsa-experts-on-us-spying-in-germany-a-979215.html On Friday, July 4, 2014 6:39 AM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Andrew, Tx for the information...I had a look at the url you provided> I didn't really understand all this techy stuff and it is nice to have it explained in a language I can understand. I have, on a number of occasions looked at my router, but I must say, apart from securing it with a password and changing the name of the network, I am frightened to touch any of the settings in the router in case I screw things up, so I leave it at the default position. I have a wireless router and a home network, and a number of devices such as computers, tablets, mobile phones and a printer and a back up disk which are connected to it on occasion. I understand that the home network and the one connected to the ISP are separated by a NAT or firewall which is supposed to protect my home network from outside intrusion. What would be the benefit of putting in traffic analysis software and what kind of software would you recommend, and where would I put it...in my computer or on the phone line...In this area we have poor broadband width anyway so downloads and uploads are very slow. ATB Dougie. On 03/07/14 19:34, Andrew Hornback wrote:Ryan, Good points, but I think this might explain part of my tactic - http://www.asante.com/support/routerguide/faqs/hardwared.html Understanding the differences between hubs, switches and routers is paramount to starting to understand TCP/IP... --- A On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Carboni <ryacko@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:ryacko@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: I don't trust anything I don't understand or could do myself. I personally would prefer to avoid encryption and maintain physical security. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote: hmmmm interesting yes however some of the links within the document either lead to a blank page or just time out. coincidence or otherwise this info and similar has been popping up within days of me complaining about unexplained multiple connection drop-outs. On 02/07/2014 21:16, Andrew Hornback wrote:Hoax or not, this is exactly why my home network includes a strategically placed hub and a separate system dedicated to traffic analysis. --- A On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:59 PM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: http://cryptome.org/2013/12/Full-Disclosure.pdf
