[cryptome] Re: Is This a Hoax: Backdoor to Wireless Router

  • From: Todd Judge <toddbob@xxxxxxx>
  • To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 00:33:10 +0900

Sorry this is so long, reason enough to blow it off immediate but if you're not 
familiar with the Asian way they do things, you may find this interesting. 
 You should experience japan banking and bill paying. Now and 10 ago and before 
Hint: there's no such thing as checks.  Credit cards in japan are only debt 
cards in the west, not domestically used, nor accepted on a semi-nationwide 
basis until very recently. Cash is the exchange. And it has it's advantages. 
The credit card implementation was based on watching South Korean consumers, as 
a whole, fall something like 40 or 60% (don't remember) into debt when western 
banks brought them in.  It was a disaster. 

I realized, as silly and time consuming as it is to now go to the bank's on 
site row of ATMs the 1st of the month, wait in line, literally pull cash out of 
your account, then feed it into another account isn't really such a bad thing, 

Aas a fun sideline, not more than around 10-12(?) years ago, ATMs were

> On Jul 4, 2014, at 8:38 PM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> Tx for the information...I had a look at the url you provided> I didn't 
> really understand all this techy stuff and it is nice to have it explained in 
> a language I can understand.  I have, on a number of occasions looked at my 
> router, but I must say, apart from securing it with a password and changing 
> the name of the network, I am frightened to touch any of the settings in the 
> router in case I screw things up, so I leave it at the default position.
> I have a wireless router and a home network, and a number of devices such as 
> computers, tablets, mobile phones and a printer and a back up disk which are 
> connected to it on occasion.  I understand that the home network and the one 
> connected to the ISP are separated by a NAT or firewall which is supposed to 
> protect my home network from outside intrusion.  
> What would be the benefit of putting in traffic analysis software and what 
> kind of software would you recommend, and where would I put it...in my 
> computer or on the phone line...In this area we have poor broadband width 
> anyway so downloads and uploads are very slow.
> Dougie.
>> On 03/07/14 19:34, Andrew Hornback wrote:
>> Ryan,
>> Good points, but I think this might explain part of my tactic -
>> http://www.asante.com/support/routerguide/faqs/hardwared.html
>> Understanding the differences between hubs, switches and routers is 
>> paramount to starting to understand TCP/IP...
>> --- A
>>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 4:32 AM, Ryan Carboni <ryacko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I don't trust anything I don't understand or could do myself.
>>> I personally would prefer to avoid encryption and maintain physical 
>>> security.
>>>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 4:11 PM, Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> hmmmm interesting yes however some of the links within the document either 
>>>> lead to a blank page or just time out.
>>>> coincidence or otherwise this info and similar has been popping up within 
>>>> days of me complaining about unexplained multiple connection drop-outs.
>>>>> On 02/07/2014 21:16, Andrew Hornback wrote:
>>>>> Hoax or not, this is exactly why my home network includes a strategically 
>>>>> placed hub and a separate system dedicated to traffic analysis.
>>>>> --- A
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:59 PM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> http://cryptome.org/2013/12/Full-Disclosure.pdf

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