[cryptome] Re: Is This a Hoax: Backdoor to Wireless Router

  • From: Shaun O'Connor <capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 23:42:42 +0100

Dougie old chap.
I have nothing whatever against the British weather, compared to what
some have to deal with its very acceptable thank you very much.;-)
I merely use the British weather as a comparative yardstick against
which to compare the fleeting stability of that elusive condition
wistfully called"normal"

On 04/07/2014 23:24, doug wrote:
> My Dear Shaun,
> Pray...what have you got against British Weather...it is so much
> better than that of America, temperate, with a lack of wild variations
> in temperature and precipitation...with a minor exception of course
> during last winter.  We have the best weather in the world, we rarely
> suffer shortages of water, we never get too hot under the collar and
> when it freezes, it rarely lasts more than few days or weeks.  It has
> all got to do with the Gulf Stream...
> Dougie.
> On 04/07/14 22:32, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
>> Normal?wtf is that when its about??lol
>> Each person, each organization, each government, each country has
>> their own idea of"normal" and what is considered "normal" today might
>> be considered  abnormal tomorrow.
>> so , yeah normal is just a ward.a collection of symbols if you
>> like(when written down) which means different things to different
>> people and changes rather quickly ( a bit like the British weather)
>> On 04/07/2014 22:24, doug wrote:
>>> HI Andrew,
>>> Tx for taking the time to reply.  I have a lot to learn on these
>>> things being a newbie to security and computers and such like. I
>>> have heard of Wireshark, but did wonder what it was all about, and I
>>> did visit the website and I did think about downloading it...but
>>> then I couldn't think of anyone with whom I could exchange
>>> information which had to be so secure and secret...or even
>>> confidential;;but after reading n Cryptome at url;
>>> http://cryptome.org/2014/07/nsa-tor-de.htm
>>> I thought the better of it.  Apparently, according to the
>>> report...and I don't know how "true" it is or how much credibility
>>> it has, amongst those whom I respect in the security industry.  I
>>> have looked at "Tails" and at "TOR" and am most annoyed to find out
>>> that the NSA considers me as an "extremist" because i am one of
>>> those people who would like to protect their privacy.  Now, I have
>>> never downloaded TOR or Tails, because i have yet to find a need for
>>> it, but I don't see why my curiosity should be rewarded by being 
>>> considered to be extreme.  it makes me wonder about the NSA and its
>>> philosophy is all about,  in the sense that does it, as an
>>> organisation, and as a group of individuals working in concert,
>>> consider itself as the "norm"... And if it does, hopefully someone
>>> can explain to me what this norm actually is.  Norms and extremities
>>> are sociological and statistical terms which refer to what kind of
>>> behaviour lies inside and outside that of which is considered
>>> acceptable as the normal. Now, the problem for me, is that I have
>>> never met a "normal" person in my life, and would certainly accept
>>> that I do have extremes of behaviour, my little obsessions, urges,
>>> drives, instincts and learned behaviour, dominate my life, of that I
>>> have no doubt.  And though I consider myself as  perfectly normal, i
>>> do understand that others can see me as perverse and extreme...c'est
>>> la vie.
>>> ATB
>>> Dougie
>>> On 04/07/14 17:02, Andrew Hornback wrote:
>>>> Doug,
>>>> Changing/adding a password and changing the name of the network is
>>>> more than 90+% of the population can be bothered to do these days
>>>> -which is what makes them so susceptible... 
>>>> NAT and firewall are a good start - I'm somewhat on the paranoid
>>>> side (being a life-long IT type guy) and I'm aspiring to implement
>>>> a system similar to the DISA's HBSS (Host Based Security Solution)
>>>> that gets deployed to all ADP assets in the DoD...
>>>> The way that my setup works is that the hub (a relatively dumb
>>>> device, by networking standards) is inserted between the ISP and
>>>> the router - since the ISP delivers my broadband connection as a
>>>> pure Ethernet drop, I can use the hub to connect another machine
>>>> in, before the router level, and "sniff" all of the traffic going
>>>> back and forth.  Using a product like Wireshark (free software,
>>>> highly recommended, been using it for years), I can look at all of
>>>> the traffic that's leaving my network as well as what's coming in
>>>> from the ISP.  See where data is coming from, where it's going...
>>>> full transparency of all of the data going back and forth as well
>>>> as the content.  By dumping all of this over to a second machine
>>>> that acts as a simple recording and analysis system, I can track
>>>> hacking attempts, attacks, etc. and report them as needed.
>>>> --- A
>>>> "InfoSec - it pays to be paranoid..."
>>>> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 7:38 AM, doug
>>>> <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>     Hi Andrew,
>>>>     Tx for the information...I had a look at the url you provided>
>>>>     I didn't really understand all this techy stuff and it is nice
>>>>     to have it explained in a language I can understand.  I have,
>>>>     on a number of occasions looked at my router, but I must say,
>>>>     apart from securing it with a password and changing the name of
>>>>     the network, I am frightened to touch any of the settings in
>>>>     the router in case I screw things up, so I leave it at the
>>>>     default position.
>>>>     I have a wireless router and a home network, and a number of
>>>>     devices such as computers, tablets, mobile phones and a printer
>>>>     and a back up disk which are connected to it on occasion.  I
>>>>     understand that the home network and the one connected to the
>>>>     ISP are separated by a NAT or firewall which is supposed to
>>>>     protect my home network from outside intrusion. 
>>>>     What would be the benefit of putting in traffic analysis
>>>>     software and what kind of software would you recommend, and
>>>>     where would I put it...in my computer or on the phone line...In
>>>>     this area we have poor broadband width anyway so downloads and
>>>>     uploads are very slow.
>>>>     ATB
>>>>     Dougie.
>>>>     On 03/07/14 19:34, Andrew Hornback wrote:
>>>>>     Ryan,
>>>>>     Good points, but I think this might explain part of my tactic -
>>>>>     http://www.asante.com/support/routerguide/faqs/hardwared.html
>>>>>     Understanding the differences between hubs, switches and
>>>>>     routers is paramount to starting to understand TCP/IP...
>>>>>     --- A
>> -- 


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