Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: sameegh jardine <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 15:02:07 +0200
lol, this guy
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:51 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
> my favourite is you whiffing a sweep and me punishing with ultra
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:49:29 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> You play in your own world. You just mash and if it fails - you were
> baited. If you get hit - it's reaction.
>
> You can tell the difference between baiting and inception from the
> opponent's reaction:
> "How could I fall for that..." <- baiting
> "How did you read that!?" <- inception
>
> My favourite is making you do Focus Attacks with Sagat then doing my Ultra.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:45 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> iin order of easiest to hardest
>
> baiting
> inception
> reaction ---> I play in this area.
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:40:39 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Yeah it's baiting at the simplest level, but with anything more complex
> then it's like Inception. You put an idea into their head and make them
> think they wanted to do it.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:32 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>
> .........baited feeling x rated
>
>
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> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:24:42 +0200
>
> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> Here's an example that even you should be able to grasp:
>
> 3rd Strike - you play Chun, I'm Ken. Every time I whiff a move, you try
> to whiff punish. So I whiff st.lk, see you try to whiff punish, and then
> Super'd you. You think it was just reaction, but I created a situation
> that made you react in a certain way. In other words, I "made" you press
> that button.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> If your cr.mk is getting swept all the time then your spacing and
> footsies in general suck. The idea is to do it out of range so that the
> only way the DP will come out is when the opponent walks forward.
>
> To understand why your footsies suck you will also need to understand how
> I read your fireball once at quarter screen distance with Ken then Ultra'd
> through it. You said you couldn't understand how I read that since you
> didn't throw a fireball the entire round. What you don't understand is
> that I made you throw that fireball. It sounds crazy, but it's true, and
> the same concept applies to footsies, except the reactions you try to get
> from your opponent are much more subtle. There's a segment in the
> Infilitration vs Tokido matchup where Infiltration starts walking back and
> forward. The only reason he does it is to get Tokido to do the same
> thing. As soon as Tokido does it, he walks forward and sweeps him. I'll
> post the clip later if I can find it.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:31 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Meh, the cr.mk thing was cool but it just gets swept all the time or
> something like that. Too risky on block too, dp is really unsafe. I'd
> rather toss out the st.hk than the cr.mk, because you can't really focus
> it, unless I'm really close or the focus attack is really good (Dudley), so
> its mindless poking.
>
> Thats why I do it twice or more, without even thinking, because if you
> focus and release, you focus will whiff and I'll kick you again for x2
> st.hk dmg. If it hits, most people actually advance or just don't realise
> how fast and far-reaching it is, and I get another hit again, sometimes
> I'll just do it again, just like jumping. After getting sick of eating
> that, most people jump and then get blown up by cr.hp. Its all I have to do.
>
> Then somewhere in between I left the frustration kick in and wait for an
> opening for some combos and yay, I win.
>
> EX Tatsu stuff is really bad though, besides on block, I just do that to
> advance or have nothing better to do. Unless the spacing is impeccable,
> using it to beat fireballs is not so great. Sometimes only one of the kicks
> it and it leave you open or you land somewhere in front. Its a great option
> but if I could read the fireball, I might as well jump in instead, the
> outcome is the same anyway.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Besides the fact that that's a REALLY stupid way of approaching a match,
> why don't you have the same approach to footsies?
>
> "I figure if I always poke, you won't punish me every time"
>
> cr.mk is a GREAT poke because of the conversion into big damage (shouken
> FADC into most boring combo ever). st.hk controls so much space and is
> very hard to whiff punish. Plus she also has that retarded Focus Attack.
> If I react with tatsu using Ryu, she ducks under it. If I react with
> cr.mk xx DP, she hops over it. Such a dumb character...
>
> If you have trouble getting in on someone like Seth, just walk forward and
> block. He doesn't have the ground mobility to keep up in footsies so he'll
> either dash forward into shenanigans, do the Electrolux special (you can
> react to this), dash back to create space, or jump. If you have trouble
> with fireballs, try EX Tatsu instead of jumping.
>
> vs. Rose slide, just do Focus Attack.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:05 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> You guys make me jump -_-
> If I don't jump and you actually fireball, then I'm like "fuck, I should
> have jumped".
>
> meh, I figure if I always jump, you won't AA every single time, you
> probably going to expect me to change what I'm going to do, sometime. I
> just need to get in once or twice to win with Sakura. One good combo and
> one ex tatsu into U1. :-)
>
> But you guys like Steve,Rod and Salie are too stubborn, or more stubborn
> than I am! "Oh, this is working. Ok, why change? Make me." -_- Then I just
> go in and see what happens :-D
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> And yet you keep jumping in recklessly and getting punished...
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again.
>
> Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and going to
> win. Rose unfair.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is *probably
> what happened*.
>
>
> FTFY.
>
> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during footsies.
> You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose.
>
> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose.
>
> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
> impossible.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> wavedashing? what game is this?
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol*
>
> I didn't even know that was possible :)
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> *lol*
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel
> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> That Lumi combo is so legit !
>
>
> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks dude !
>
>
> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the hype *lol*
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure thorns Barb. The
> point was to see if he could kill opponents without pressing a single
> button - combo of thorns + life regen.
> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour for Diablo
> to die, but it worked.
>
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
>
> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon
>
> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it.
> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. The complete
> lack of originality grates.
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM
>
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
> Horizon does not ring a bell...
> ------------------------------
> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000
> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit area, the
> situation was bound to change.
>
> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime series.
>
> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM
> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>
> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game prices stay
> essentially the same for over a decade... people start getting creative :P
>
> In short
>
> Money happened
> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200
> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > What ever happened to just releasing a game?
> >
> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hahaha
> > >
> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is a real
> bargain
> > >> for
> > >> a 5min speedrun game.
> > >>
> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of Kojima pulling the
> > >> story
> > >> out of his ass.
> > >>
> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> > >> On
> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM
> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > >>
> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start?
> > >>
> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it ever being
> > >> advertised as a proper game.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start...
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From:
> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000
> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes are spend
> hiding.
> > >>
> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup, sounds like
> > >> MGS...
> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual storyline to go
> > >> along
> > >> with it.
> > >>
> > >> From:
> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM
> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > >>
> > >> Disappointment of the week
> > >>
> > >>
> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code (without
> assets, of
> > >> course)
> > >>
> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the next day
> or
> > >> so.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington
> > >> <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
> > >> Link -_-
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of Akuma play
> > >> I've
> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast reactions
> > >> and
> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo into reset
> > >> and
> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did this
> because
> > >> he
> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration went for the
> > >> DP,
> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
> > >> <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
> > >>
> > >> From:
> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> [
> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e>
> ]
> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>
> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > >>
> > >> Go back to sleep.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
> > >> <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
> > >> Did someone say SFxT ?
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
> > >>
> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i
> had
> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and
> will
> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what
> games r
> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama
> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I
> don't
> > >>>>> play
> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc now.
> > >>>>> It's
> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want
> to.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof
> > >>>>>> 2002
> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no
> > >>>>>> profit
> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is
> about
> > >>>>>> > to
> > >>>>>> have a
> > >>>>>> > heart-attack.
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
> > >>>>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> > >>>>>> >> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >
> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
> > >>>>>> >> Claremont.
> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>
> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced
> subjectively...
> > >>>>>> >>> See
> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
> > >>>>>> >>> google
> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable
> example.
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
> > >>>>>> >>>> article
> > >>>>>> or
> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge
> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund
> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in
> the
> > >>>>>> >>>> quant
> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn
> into
> > >>>>>> >>>> R500,
> > >>>>>> >>>> if
> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption
> > >>>>>> >>>> here
> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is
> > >>>>>> >>>> also
> > >>>>>> >>>> the
> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected
> > >>>>>> >>>> this
> > >>>>>> >>>> when
> > >>>>>> >>>> I
> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
> > >>>>>> >>>> implement
> > >>>>>> >>>> like,
> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have
> any
> > >>>>>> >>>> statical
> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the
> extent of
> > >>>>>> running
> > >>>>>> >>>> a
> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is
> akin
> > >>>>>> >>>> to
> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best
> > >>>>>> >>>> variables
> > >>>>>> >>>> that
> > >>>>>> >>>> fit
> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a
> data-base
> > >>>>>> first,
> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables
> and
> > >>>>>> >>>> the
> > >>>>>> ANN
> > >>>>>> >>>> is
> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide
> > >>>>>> >>>> what
> > >>>>>> >>>> it
> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage
> out,
> > >>>>>> >>>> that
> > >>>>>> >>>> is
> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people
> have
> > >>>>>> >>>> used
> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's
> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I
> > >>>>>> >>>> would
> > >>>>>> >>>> is
> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently,
> just
> > >>>>>> >>>> as
> > >>>>>> >>>> we
> > >>>>>> >>>> do.
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are
> economic
> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks,
> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly
> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
> > >>>>>> necessarily
> > >>>>>> >>>> be
> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always
> wait
> > >>>>>> >>>> for
> > >>>>>> >>>> some
> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all, else
> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd
> > >>>>>> >>>> go
> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market
> values
> > >>>>>> >>>> it
> > >>>>>> >>>> at
> > >>>>>> >>>> and
> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I
> had
> > >>>>>> >>>> a
> > >>>>>> basic
> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a
> stock
> > >>>>>> >>>> falls
> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd
> be
> > >>>>>> >>>> a
> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market.
> It
> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems
> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds
> are
> > >>>>>> already
> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was
> > >>>>>> >>>>> that
> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper
> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the
> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions
> > >>>>>> >>>>> I
> > >>>>>> had.
> > >>>>>> >>>>> It
> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data
> is
> > >>>>>> >>>>> run
> > >>>>>> >>>>> on
> > >>>>>> >>>>> live
> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from
> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting",
> > >>>>>> which
> > >>>>>> >>>>> is
> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past
> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance
> > >>>>>> in
> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs
> don't
> > >>>>>> >>>>> take
> > >>>>>> >>>>> into
> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail
> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably
> > >>>>>> when
> > >>>>>> >>>>> they
> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do
> is
> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
> > >>>>>> >>>>> try
> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be at
> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the
> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email
> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address.
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
> > >>>>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ,
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I
> can
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em,
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> this.
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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