Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 15:06:52 +0200
To pettin is to cheat
wwrd
what would raphamon do.
On 06/02/2014, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> dont pettin my bru
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Stephen Scheidel
> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> I prefer to coward.
>>
>> On 06/02/2014, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > there is no other way to play
>> >
>> > From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:50:09 +0000
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Lol LB. You play SF like I play Diablo - Facetank and hope for the
>> > best.
>> If
>> > you're dying, just hit harder.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > On Behalf Of lindsey kiviets
>> >
>> > Sent: 06 February 2014 2:45 PM
>> >
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > iin order of easiest to hardest
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > baiting
>> >
>> > inception
>> >
>> > reaction ---> I play in this area.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:40:39 +0200
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> > From: ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Yeah it's baiting at the simplest level, but with anything more complex
>> then
>> > it's like Inception. You put an idea into their head and make them
>> > think
>> > they wanted to do it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:32 PM, lindsey kiviets <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > .........baited feeling x rated
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:24:42 +0200
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> > From:
>> > ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Here's an example that even you should be able to grasp:
>> >
>> > 3rd Strike - you play Chun, I'm Ken. Every time I whiff a move, you
>> > try
>> to
>> > whiff punish. So I whiff
>> > st.lk, see you try to whiff punish, and then Super'd you. You think it
>> was
>> > just reaction, but I created a situation that made you react in a
>> > certain
>> > way. In other words, I "made" you press that button.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If your
>> > cr.mk is getting swept all the time then your spacing and footsies in
>> > general suck. The idea is to do it out of range so that the only way
>> the DP
>> > will come out is when the opponent walks forward.
>> >
>> > To understand why your footsies suck you will also need to understand
>> how I
>> > read your fireball once at quarter screen distance with Ken then
>> > Ultra'd
>> > through it.
>> > You said you couldn't understand how I read that since you didn't
>> > throw
>> a
>> > fireball the entire round. What you don't understand is that I made
>> > you
>> > throw that fireball. It sounds crazy, but it's true, and the same
>> concept
>> > applies to footsies, except the reactions
>> > you try to get from your opponent are much more subtle. There's a
>> segment
>> > in the Infilitration vs Tokido matchup where Infiltration starts
>> > walking
>> > back and forward. The only reason he does it is to get Tokido to do
>> > the
>> > same thing. As soon as Tokido does
>> > it, he walks forward and sweeps him. I'll post the clip later if I
>> > can
>> > find it.
>> >
>> >
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>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:31 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Meh, the
>> > cr.mk thing was cool but it just gets swept all the time or something
>> like
>> > that. Too risky on block too, dp is really unsafe. I'd rather toss out
>> the
>> > st.hk than the
>> > cr.mk, because you can't really focus it, unless I'm really close or
>> > the
>> > focus attack is really good (Dudley), so its mindless poking.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thats why I do it twice or more, without even thinking, because if you
>> focus
>> > and release, you focus will whiff and I'll kick you again for x2
>> > st.hk dmg. If it hits, most people actually advance or just don't
>> realise
>> > how fast and far-reaching it is, and I get another hit again, sometimes
>> I'll
>> > just do it again, just like jumping. After getting sick of eating
>> > that, most people jump and then get blown up by cr.hp. Its all I have
>> > to
>> > do.
>> >
>> > Then somewhere in between I left the frustration kick in and wait for
>> > an
>> > opening for some combos and yay, I win.
>> >
>> > EX Tatsu stuff is really bad though, besides on block, I just do that
>> > to
>> > advance or have nothing better to do. Unless the spacing is impeccable,
>> > using it to beat
>> > fireballs is not so great. Sometimes only one of the kicks it and it
>> leave
>> > you open or you land somewhere in front. Its a great option but if I
>> could
>> > read the fireball, I might as well jump in instead, the outcome is the
>> same
>> > anyway.
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Besides the fact that that's a REALLY stupid way of approaching a
>> > match,
>> why
>> > don't you have the same approach to footsies?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "I figure if I always poke, you won't punish me every time"
>> >
>> > cr.mk is a GREAT poke because of the conversion into big damage
>> > (shouken
>> > FADC into most boring combo ever).
>> > st.hk controls so much space and is very hard to whiff punish. Plus
>> > she
>> > also has that retarded Focus Attack. If I react with tatsu using Ryu,
>> she
>> > ducks under it. If I react with
>> > cr.mk xx DP, she hops over it. Such a dumb character...
>> >
>> > If you have trouble getting in on someone like Seth, just walk forward
>> and
>> > block. He doesn't have the ground mobility to keep up in footsies so
>> he'll
>> > either
>> > dash forward into shenanigans, do the Electrolux special (you can
>> > react
>> to
>> > this), dash back to create space, or jump. If you have trouble with
>> > fireballs, try EX Tatsu instead of jumping.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > vs. Rose slide, just do Focus Attack.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:05 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > You guys make me jump -_-
>> >
>> > If I don't jump and you actually fireball, then I'm like "fuck, I
>> > should
>> > have jumped".
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > meh, I figure if I always jump, you won't AA every single time, you
>> probably
>> > going to expect me to change what I'm going to do, sometime. I just
>> > need
>> to
>> > get in once or twice to win with Sakura. One good combo and one ex
>> > tatsu
>> > into U1. :-)
>> >
>> >
>> > But you guys like Steve,Rod and Salie are too stubborn, or more
>> > stubborn
>> > than I am! "Oh, this is working. Ok, why change? Make me." -_- Then I
>> just
>> > go in and
>> > see what happens :-D
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > And yet you keep jumping in recklessly and getting punished...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again.
>> >
>> > Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and going to
>> win.
>> > Rose unfair.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
>> > probably what happened.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > FTFY.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during
>> > footsies.
>> > You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again.
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose.
>> >
>> > Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
>> > impossible.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA
>> >
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>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > wavedashing? what game is this?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I didn't even know that was possible :)
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > *lol*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel
>> > <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That Lumi combo is so legit !
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks dude !
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the hype *lol*
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
>> > <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure thorns Barb.
>> > The
>> > point was to see if he could kill opponents without pressing a single
>> button
>> > - combo
>> > of thorns + life regen.
>> >
>> > He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour for
>> Diablo to
>> > die, but it worked.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From:
>> > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > On Behalf Of Di Lhong
>> >
>> > Sent: 05 February 2014 3:48 PM
>> >
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
>> > <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Some guy on one of my forums recommended it.
>> >
>> > I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. The
>> > complete
>> > lack of originality grates.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From:
>> > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>> >
>> > Sent: 05 February 2014 3:39 PM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Horizon does not ring a bell...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From:
>> > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000
>> >
>> > Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit area, the
>> > situation was bound to change.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime series.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From:
>> > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > On Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>> >
>> > Sent: 05 February 2014 3:32 PM
>> >
>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> > Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game prices stay
>> > essentially the same for over a decade... people start getting
>> > creative
>> :P
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > In short
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Money happened
>> >
>> >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200
>> >
>> >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >> From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> What ever happened to just releasing a game?
>> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >> On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> > Hahaha
>> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >> > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is a real
>> >> >> bargain
>> >
>> >> >> for
>> >
>> >> >> a 5min speedrun game.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of Kojima pulling
>> the
>> >
>> >> >> story
>> >
>> >> >> out of his ass.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >> >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >
>> >> >> On
>> >
>> >> >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>> >
>> >> >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM
>> >
>> >> >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> >> >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start?
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it ever being
>> >
>> >> >> advertised as a proper game.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> Thats how I understood it from the start...
>> >
>> >> >> ________________________________
>> >
>> >> >> From:
>> > alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >> To:
>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >> >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000
>> >
>> >> >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes are spend
>> >> >> hiding.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup, sounds
>> >> >> like
>> >
>> >> >> MGS...
>> >
>> >> >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual storyline to
>> >> >> go
>> >
>> >> >> along
>> >
>> >> >> with it.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> From:
>> > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>> >
>> >> >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM
>> >
>> >> >> To:
>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> Disappointment of the week
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>> >
>> >> >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code (without
>> assets,
>> >> >> of
>> >
>> >> >> course)
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>> >
>> >> >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the next
>> >> >> day
>> >> >> or
>> >
>> >> >> so.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington
>> >
>> >> >> <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Link -_-
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>> >
>> >> >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of Akuma
>> >> >> play
>> >
>> >> >> I've
>> >
>> >> >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast
>> >> >> reactions
>> >
>> >> >> and
>> >
>> >> >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo into
>> >> >> reset
>> >
>> >> >> and
>> >
>> >> >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did this
>> >> >> because
>> >
>> >> >> he
>> >
>> >> >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration went for
>> the
>> >
>> >> >> DP,
>> >
>> >> >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
>> >
>> >> >> <alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>> >>
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> From:
>> > cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>> >
>> >> >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>> >
>> >> >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
>> >
>> >> >> To:
>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> Go back to sleep.
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
>> >
>> >> >> <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Did someone say SFxT ?
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
>> >
>> >> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
>> >
>> >> >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>> >
>> >> >>
>> >
>> >> >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i
>> >> >>> had
>> >
>> >> >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war
>> player
>> >
>> >> >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>> >
>> >> >>>
>> >
>> >> >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel
>> >> >>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had
>> >> >>>> a
>> >
>> >> >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and
>> >> >>>> will
>> >
>> >> >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what
>> games
>> >> >>>> r
>> >
>> >> >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come
>> >> >>>> 2
>> >
>> >> >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>> >
>> >> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama
>> >
>> >> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>> >
>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I
>> >> >>>>> don't
>> >
>> >> >>>>> play
>> >
>> >> >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc
>> >> >>>>> now.
>> >
>> >> >>>>> It's
>> >
>> >> >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you
>> >> >>>>> want
>> >> >>>>> to.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
>> >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
>> >
>> >> >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo
>> >> >>>>>> kof
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> 2002
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> profit
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>> >
>> >> >>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is
>> >> >>>>>> > about
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> > to
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> have a
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> > heart-attack.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:
>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >> Claremont.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced
>> >> >>>>>> >>> subjectively...
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>> See
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis,
>> or
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>> google
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable
>> >> >>>>>> >>> example.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> the
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> article
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> or
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the
>> Hedge
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> Fund
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> in
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> the
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> quant
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> into
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> R500,
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> if
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> for
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> adaption
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> here
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs
>> is
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> also
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> the
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> corrected
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> this
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> when
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> I
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> implement
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> like,
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> have
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> any
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> statical
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the
>> extent
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> of
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> running
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> a
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> is
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> akin
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> to
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> variables
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> that
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> fit
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> data-base
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> first,
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> variables
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> and
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> the
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> ANN
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> is
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer
>> decide
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> what
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> it
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> out,
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> that
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> is
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah,
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> people
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> have
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> used
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> GA's
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> I
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> would
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> is
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently,
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> just
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> as
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> we
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> do.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> economic
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> shocks,
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will
>> adjust
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> accordingly
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> won't
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> necessarily
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> be
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> wait
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> for
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> some
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all,
>> else
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> I'd
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> go
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> values
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> it
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> at
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> and
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> I
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> had
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> a
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> basic
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> stock
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> falls
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money,
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> I'd
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> be
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> a
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> @GB
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> market.
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> It
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> seems
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> funds
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> are
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> already
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though).
>> Was
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> that
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> paper
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> questions
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> I
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> had.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> It
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> data
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> is
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> run
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> on
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> live
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting",
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> which
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> is
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> performance
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> in
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> don't
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> take
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> into
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> miserably
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> when
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> they
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> do
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> is
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> to
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> try
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> to
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be
>> at
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> the
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> address.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hilton
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> ,
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From:
>> > ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> To:
>> > cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> can
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> see
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> em,
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
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>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
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>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
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>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> knows
>> >
>> >> >>>>>> >>>>>>> this.
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