Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:49:46 +0200
Disappointment of the week
http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code (without assets, of
> course)
>
> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the next day or
>> so.
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington <
>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Link -_-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of Akuma play
>>>> I've seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast reactions
>>>> and situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo into reset
>>>> and which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did this
>>>> because he was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration went
>>>> for the DP, it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Go back to sleep.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington <
>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Did someone say SFxT ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i
>>>>> had
>>>>> > sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
>>>>> > now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
>>>>> >> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and
>>>>> will
>>>>> >> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what
>>>>> games r
>>>>> >> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
>>>>> >> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> >>> play
>>>>> >>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc now.
>>>>> >>> It's
>>>>> >>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want
>>>>> to.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof
>>>>> 2002
>>>>> >>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no
>>>>> profit
>>>>> >>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
>>>>> >>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>>>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is
>>>>> about to
>>>>> >>>> have a
>>>>> >>>> > heart-attack.
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>> >>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >
>>>>> >>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
>>>>> >>>> >> Claremont.
>>>>> >>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
>>>>> >>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>
>>>>> >>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced
>>>>> subjectively...
>>>>> >>>> >>> See
>>>>> >>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
>>>>> >>>> >>> google
>>>>> >>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable
>>>>> example.
>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
>>>>> >>>> >>>> article
>>>>> >>>> or
>>>>> >>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the
>>>>> Hedge Fund
>>>>> >>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>>> >>>> quant
>>>>> >>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn
>>>>> into
>>>>> >>>> >>>> R500,
>>>>> >>>> >>>> if
>>>>> >>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
>>>>> >>>> >>>> adaption
>>>>> >>>> >>>> here
>>>>> >>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs
>>>>> is also
>>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected
>>>>> this
>>>>> >>>> >>>> when
>>>>> >>>> >>>> I
>>>>> >>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
>>>>> >>>> >>>> implement
>>>>> >>>> >>>> like,
>>>>> >>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have
>>>>> any
>>>>> >>>> >>>> statical
>>>>> >>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the
>>>>> extent of
>>>>> >>>> running
>>>>> >>>> >>>> a
>>>>> >>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is
>>>>> akin
>>>>> >>>> >>>> to
>>>>> >>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best
>>>>> variables
>>>>> >>>> >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> >>>> fit
>>>>> >>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a
>>>>> data-base
>>>>> >>>> first,
>>>>> >>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables
>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>>> >>>> ANN
>>>>> >>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer
>>>>> decide what
>>>>> >>>> >>>> it
>>>>> >>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage
>>>>> out,
>>>>> >>>> >>>> that
>>>>> >>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people
>>>>> have
>>>>> >>>> >>>> used
>>>>> >>>> >>>> GA's
>>>>> >>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I
>>>>> would
>>>>> >>>> >>>> is
>>>>> >>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently,
>>>>> just as
>>>>> >>>> >>>> we
>>>>> >>>> >>>> do.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are
>>>>> economic
>>>>> >>>> >>>> shocks,
>>>>> >>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
>>>>> >>>> >>>> accordingly
>>>>> >>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
>>>>> >>>> necessarily
>>>>> >>>> >>>> be
>>>>> >>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always
>>>>> wait
>>>>> >>>> >>>> for
>>>>> >>>> >>>> some
>>>>> >>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all,
>>>>> else
>>>>> >>>> >>>> I'd
>>>>> >>>> >>>> go
>>>>> >>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market
>>>>> values it
>>>>> >>>> >>>> at
>>>>> >>>> >>>> and
>>>>> >>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I
>>>>> had a
>>>>> >>>> basic
>>>>> >>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a
>>>>> stock
>>>>> >>>> >>>> falls
>>>>> >>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd
>>>>> be a
>>>>> >>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>> >>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> @GB
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market.
>>>>> It
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> seems
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds
>>>>> are
>>>>> >>>> already
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though).
>>>>> Was
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> that
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> paper
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the
>>>>> questions
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> I
>>>>> >>>> had.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> It
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data
>>>>> is run
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> on
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> live
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from
>>>>> "over-fitting",
>>>>> >>>> which
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> is
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> performance
>>>>> >>>> in
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs
>>>>> don't
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> take
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> into
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail
>>>>> miserably
>>>>> >>>> when
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> they
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do
>>>>> is to
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> try
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> to
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>> >>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be
>>>>> at the
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> address.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton
>>>>> myself
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> ,
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I
>>>>> can
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> see
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> em,
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows
>>>>> this.
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
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