Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 14:22:19 +0200

If your cr.mk is getting swept all the time then your spacing and footsies
in general suck.  The idea is to do it out of range so that the only way
the DP will come out is when the opponent walks forward.

To understand why your footsies suck you will also need to understand how I
read your fireball once at quarter screen distance with Ken then Ultra'd
through it.  You said you couldn't understand how I read that since you
didn't throw a fireball the entire round.  What you don't understand is
that I made you throw that fireball.  It sounds crazy, but it's true, and
the same concept applies to footsies, except the reactions you try to get
from your opponent are much more subtle.  There's a segment in the
Infilitration vs Tokido matchup where Infiltration starts walking back and
forward.  The only reason he does it is to get Tokido to do the same
thing.  As soon as Tokido does it, he walks forward and sweeps him.  I'll
post the clip later if I can find it.




On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:31 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Meh, the cr.mk thing was cool but it just gets swept all the time or
> something like that. Too risky on block too, dp is really unsafe. I'd
> rather toss out the st.hk than the cr.mk, because you can't really focus
> it, unless I'm really close or the focus attack is really good (Dudley), so
> its mindless poking.
>
> Thats why I do it twice or more, without even thinking, because if you
> focus and release, you focus will whiff and I'll kick you again for x2
> st.hk dmg. If it hits, most people actually advance or just don't realise
> how fast and far-reaching it is, and I get another hit again, sometimes
> I'll just do it again, just like jumping. After getting sick of eating
> that, most people jump and then get blown up by cr.hp. Its all I have to do.
>
> Then somewhere in between I left the frustration kick in and wait for an
> opening for some combos and yay, I win.
>
> EX Tatsu stuff is really bad though, besides on block, I just do that to
> advance or have nothing better to do. Unless the spacing is impeccable,
> using it to beat fireballs is not so great. Sometimes only one of the kicks
> it and it leave you open or you land somewhere in front. Its a great option
> but if I could read the fireball, I might as well jump in instead, the
> outcome is the same anyway.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Besides the fact that that's a REALLY stupid way of approaching a match,
>> why don't you have the same approach to footsies?
>>
>> "I figure if I always poke, you won't punish me every time"
>>
>> cr.mk is a GREAT poke because of the conversion into big damage (shouken
>> FADC into most boring combo ever).  st.hk controls so much space and is
>> very hard to whiff punish.  Plus she also has that retarded Focus Attack.
>> If I react with tatsu using Ryu, she ducks under it.  If I react with
>> cr.mk xx DP, she hops over it.  Such a dumb character...
>>
>> If you have trouble getting in on someone like Seth, just walk forward
>> and block.  He doesn't have the ground mobility to keep up in footsies so
>> he'll either dash forward into shenanigans, do the Electrolux special (you
>> can react to this), dash back to create space, or jump.  If you have
>> trouble with fireballs, try EX Tatsu instead of jumping.
>>
>> vs. Rose slide, just do Focus Attack.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:05 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> You guys make me jump -_-
>>> If I don't jump and you actually fireball, then I'm like "fuck, I should
>>> have jumped".
>>>
>>> meh, I figure if I always jump, you won't AA every single time, you
>>> probably going to expect me to change what I'm going to do, sometime. I
>>> just need to get in once or twice to win with Sakura. One good combo and
>>> one ex tatsu into U1. :-)
>>>
>>> But you guys like Steve,Rod and Salie are too stubborn, or more stubborn
>>> than I am! "Oh, this is working. Ok, why change? Make me." -_- Then I just
>>> go in and see what happens :-D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> And yet you keep jumping in recklessly and getting punished...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and going
>>>>> to win. Rose unfair.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is 
>>>>>> *probably
>>>>>>> what happened*.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FTFY.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during
>>>>>> footsies.  You get whiff punished once and then you never press that 
>>>>>> button
>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
>>>>>>> impossible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wavedashing? what game is this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <
>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I didn't even know that was possible :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams <
>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *lol*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>>>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit !
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>>>>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks dude !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hype *lol*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thorns Barb. The point was to see if he could kill opponents 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pressing a single button - combo of thorns + life regen.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hour for Diablo to die, but it worked.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The complete lack of originality grates.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profit area, the situation was bound to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> series.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prices stay essentially the same for over a decade...  people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creative :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hahaha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a real bargain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kojima pulling the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> story
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are spend hiding.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> MGS...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> storyline to go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> along
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> with it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (without assets, of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> course)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the next day or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Link -_-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Akuma play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fast reactions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combo into reset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did this because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infiltration went for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> DP,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not get copy i had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gears of war player
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friendly .i had a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and ps3 and will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms c what games r
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting.ill try 2 come 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ilitirit but I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on SupArc now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lobby if you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bellville?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many ggpo kof
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheats 2 no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms.smash or b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was me?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this man is about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Telkom
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *facepalm*.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> priced subjectively...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> applicable example.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the title of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> within the Hedge
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can be seen in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made R1 turn into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time). Testing for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of work. HFs is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-) I corrected
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis, they'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe 4 or 5 have any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> went to the extent of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first... which is akin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the best
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> algorithm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> using a data-base
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the variables and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer decide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get garbage out,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah, people have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program it and I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differently, just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are economic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prices will adjust
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usual, they won't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't always wait
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> market at all, else
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the market values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than not.If I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether a stock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> earn money, I'd be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stock market. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of these funds are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GAs though). Was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the data is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust to past
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, most GAs don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they fail
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best they can do is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link should be at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me his email
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kiviets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> added Hilton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cellphones where I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uploading soon :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barendse <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because LB knows
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
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