Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi

  • From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 12:41:41 +0200

And yet you keep jumping in recklessly and getting punished...


On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:55 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Yup, because that move lost me life. Lets never do that again.
>
> Sap, I'm doing Soul Spiral backdash and slides forever now and going to
> win. Rose unfair.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:18 AM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is *probably
>>> what happened*.
>>
>>
>> FTFY.
>>
>> Told you many times before, you play too conservatively during footsies.
>> You get whiff punished once and then you never press that button again.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:43 AM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> GG Sap. Please die and burn in hell with Rose.
>>>
>>> Seriously, its feels 7-3 to Rose.
>>>
>>> Either that or I'm doing silly stuff for like 30 matches, which is
>>> impossible.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> *lol* Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension. Check out the matches :)
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/user/PhoenixSA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:37 PM, Di Lhong <numotd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> wavedashing? what game is this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Wait until you see the wavedashing *lol*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't even know that was possible :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Ryan Williams 
>>>>>> <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *lol*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Stephen Scheidel <
>>>>>>> gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That Lumi combo is so legit !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 18:06, Stephen Scheidel 
>>>>>>>> <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks dude !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2014 16:31, Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All the DBZ vids are up :) Hope you guys enjoy reliving the hype
>>>>>>>>>> *lol*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Reading in the Barb thread and some guy has made a pure thorns
>>>>>>>>>>> Barb. The point was to see if he could kill opponents without 
>>>>>>>>>>> pressing a
>>>>>>>>>>> single button - combo of thorns + life regen.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He tested the barb against Diablo in MP0. It took half an hour
>>>>>>>>>>> for Diablo to die, but it worked.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Di Lhong
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Who needs GTA when you have Goat Simulator!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  http://myanimelist.net/anime/10456/Kyoukaisenjou_no_Horizon
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Some guy on one of my forums recommended it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think I'm going to delete that Unbreakable Machine thing. The
>>>>>>>>>>> complete lack of originality grates.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:39 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Horizon does not ring a bell...
>>>>>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:37:13 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, since games overtook movies as the biggest media profit
>>>>>>>>>>> area, the situation was bound to change.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Paas, do you have Horizon lying around? I mean the anime
>>>>>>>>>>> series.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>>>> *On Behalf Of *Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 3:32 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> When cost to produce games increased exponentially but game
>>>>>>>>>>> prices stay essentially the same for over a decade...  people start 
>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>> creative :P
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In short
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Money happened
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 15:23:13 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>> > From: gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> > To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > What ever happened to just releasing a game?
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > On 05/02/2014, Stephen Scheidel <gieroadsteve@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > > Hahaha
>>>>>>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>>>>>> > > On 05/02/2014, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I understand that it's not a full game. I'm sure USD30 is a
>>>>>>>>>>> real bargain
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> for
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> a 5min speedrun game.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Maybe if you pre-order it you get a free picture of Kojima
>>>>>>>>>>> pulling the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> story
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> out of his ass.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From: cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [
>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Behalf Of Wynand-Ben
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 3:10 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Well wasnt going to be a "big" demo from the start?
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Kinda like the ship segment from MGS2. Cant remember it
>>>>>>>>>>> ever being
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> advertised as a proper game.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Thats how I understood it from the start...
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: RE: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:04:32 +0000
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Lol, 5min for a speedrun. No doubt 4 of those 5 minutes are
>>>>>>>>>>> spend hiding.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Two hours of game, with 5minutes of actual gameplay. Yup,
>>>>>>>>>>> sounds like
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> MGS...
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Hopefully they will have a heavy pseudo-intellectual
>>>>>>>>>>> storyline to go
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> along
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> with it.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 2:50 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Disappointment of the week
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://metro.co.uk/2014/02/05/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes-is-only-2-hours-long-4291338/
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code
>>>>>>>>>>> (without assets, of
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> course)
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the
>>>>>>>>>>> next day or
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> so.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Link -_-
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of
>>>>>>>>>>> Akuma play
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> I've
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast
>>>>>>>>>>> reactions
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo
>>>>>>>>>>> into reset
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did
>>>>>>>>>>> this because
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> he
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration
>>>>>>>>>>> went for the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> DP,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> From:
>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> [
>>>>>>>>>>> mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3cmailto:cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx%3e>
>>>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Behalf Of Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Sent: 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Go back to sleep.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <
>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Did someone say SFxT ?
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <
>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not
>>>>>>>>>>> get copy i had
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of
>>>>>>>>>>> war player
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <
>>>>>>>>>>> orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and
>>>>>>>>>>> friendly .i had a
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and
>>>>>>>>>>> ps3 and will
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c
>>>>>>>>>>> what games r
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill
>>>>>>>>>>> try 2 come 2
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit
>>>>>>>>>>> but I don't
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on
>>>>>>>>>>> SupArc now.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby
>>>>>>>>>>> if you want to.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in
>>>>>>>>>>> Bellville?
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> <orichih@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:orichih@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed
>>>>>>>>>>> many ggpo kof
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> 2002
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all
>>>>>>>>>>> cheats 2 no
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> profit
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other
>>>>>>>>>>> platforms.smash or b
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was
>>>>>>>>>>> me?
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this
>>>>>>>>>>> man is about
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > to
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > heart-attack.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > <
>>>>>>>>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of
>>>>>>>>>>> Telkom
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Claremont.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security...
>>>>>>>>>>> *facepalm*.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B"
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced
>>>>>>>>>>> subjectively...
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> See
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction
>>>>>>>>>>> hypothesis, or
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> google
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so'
>>>>>>>>>>> applicable example.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>> <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the
>>>>>>>>>>> title of the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> article
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used
>>>>>>>>>>> within the Hedge
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Fund
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can
>>>>>>>>>>> be seen in the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> quant
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made
>>>>>>>>>>> R1 turn into
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> R500,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time).
>>>>>>>>>>> Testing for
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> adaption
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> here
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of
>>>>>>>>>>> work. HFs is
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I
>>>>>>>>>>> corrected
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis,
>>>>>>>>>>> they'd
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> implement
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> like,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4
>>>>>>>>>>> or 5 have any
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> statical
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to
>>>>>>>>>>> the extent of
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first...
>>>>>>>>>>> which is akin
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the
>>>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> variables
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> fit
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained
>>>>>>>>>>> using a data-base
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> first,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the
>>>>>>>>>>> variables and
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> ANN
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the
>>>>>>>>>>> computer decide
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think
>>>>>>>>>>> so.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get
>>>>>>>>>>> garbage out,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so
>>>>>>>>>>> yeah, people have
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> GA's
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you
>>>>>>>>>>> program it and I
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> would
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn
>>>>>>>>>>> differently, just
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> do.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there
>>>>>>>>>>> are economic
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> shocks,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices
>>>>>>>>>>> will adjust
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> accordingly
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual,
>>>>>>>>>>> they won't
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> necessarily
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I
>>>>>>>>>>> can't always wait
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market
>>>>>>>>>>> at all, else
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the
>>>>>>>>>>> market values
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than
>>>>>>>>>>> not.If I had
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> basic
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on
>>>>>>>>>>> whether a stock
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> falls
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn
>>>>>>>>>>> money, I'd be
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> @GB
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the
>>>>>>>>>>> stock market. It
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of
>>>>>>>>>>> these funds are
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs
>>>>>>>>>>> though). Was
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> paper
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> questions
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> had.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before
>>>>>>>>>>> the data is
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> live
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> "over-fitting",
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to
>>>>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> performance
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However,
>>>>>>>>>>> most GAs don't
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> take
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> into
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so
>>>>>>>>>>> they fail
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> miserably
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best
>>>>>>>>>>> they can do is
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>> >>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link
>>>>>>>>>>> should be at
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me
>>>>>>>>>>> his email
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> address.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i
>>>>>>>>>>> added Hilton
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> myself
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> From:
>>>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>>>> cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their
>>>>>>>>>>> cellphones where I can
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> em,
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading
>>>>>>>>>>> soon :)
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse
>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this
>>>>>>>>>>> because LB knows
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>>>
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