Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
- From: Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:45:10 +0200
Wow, someone released the Art of Fighting source code (without assets, of
course)
https://app.box.com/s/5on2e593tqt2c8ketc68
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Watched it live. It will be on their YouTube channel in the next day or
> so.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9yHaajDKNc
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Sean Carrington <
> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Link -_-
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Did anyone watch Infiltration vs Tokido? Highest level of Akuma play
>>> I've seen. SFIV is relatively slow but it's so demanding on fast reactions
>>> and situational awareness. In one situation Tokido did a combo into reset
>>> and which he knew would trade if Infiltration did a DP. He did this
>>> because he was calculating the stun values in his head. Infiltration went
>>> for the DP, it traded and Tokido got the dizzy. So pro.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Donaldson, Alasdair <
>>> alasdair.donaldson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like he was having a pretty horrible nightmare.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>> cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Ilitirit Sama
>>>> *Sent:* 05 February 2014 1:11 PM
>>>> *To:* cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Go back to sleep.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Sean Carrington <
>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Did someone say SFxT ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gamernet House, 45 Salisbury Road, Cape Town, ZA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Let me know were as it is my 1st time
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> > Reason y i have xbox and ps3 was 4 kof 13 but i did not get copy i had
>>>> > sfxt found 1 sa player further no1.that's y i was gears of war player
>>>> > now im stuck on ggpo 4 competition toying around.
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2/5/14, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >> Im gonna start of slow c im new 2 group im sa and friendly .i had a
>>>> >> copy of kof 12 but i need a copy of kof 13 i got xbox and ps3 and
>>>> will
>>>> >> soon upgrade graphic card 4 pc. To cover most platforms c what games
>>>> r
>>>> >> famous 2 play.train.and thn c it sound interesting.ill try 2 come 2
>>>> >> belville 2 get use 2 the flow.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 2/5/14, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>> I remember playing you on GGPO. My user name is ilitirit but I
>>>> don't
>>>> >>> play
>>>> >>> on there any more cos my GGPO doesn't work. We play on SupArc now.
>>>> >>> It's
>>>> >>> like GGPO but you can play against 3 people in a lobby if you want
>>>> to.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Are you going to come to the Saturday sessions in Bellville?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jack Steel <orichih@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> My ggpo user is goku1up- and finalfighter i smashed many ggpo kof
>>>> 2002
>>>> >>>> players avk team sa and other locals they tried all cheats 2 no
>>>> profit
>>>> >>>> i hope to get smashed in kof13 and other platforms.smash or b
>>>> >>>> smashed"d.^_^;)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 2/3/14, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>> > I wonder if they would have done the same if it was me?
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > Or would they be all like... call the hospital, this man is
>>>> about to
>>>> >>>> have a
>>>> >>>> > heart-attack.
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Sean Carrington
>>>> >>>> > <theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >
>>>> >>>> >> I think I'm troubled.
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >> I might have cursed one too many times at the GM of Telkom
>>>> >>>> >> Claremont.
>>>> >>>> >> I was escorted out of the mall by security... *facepalm*.
>>>> >>>> >> On 03 Feb 2014 4:02 PM, "G B" <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>
>>>> >>>> >>> "subjective prices" - I mean that they are priced
>>>> subjectively...
>>>> >>>> >>> See
>>>> >>>> >>> DeBont and Thaler (1985)'s classic overreaction hypothesis, or
>>>> >>>> >>> google
>>>> >>>> >>> anything on herding, as a basic yet 'oh so' applicable example.
>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, G B <sigma.g19@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> Never heard of Peter Stone. Can you send me the title of the
>>>> >>>> >>>> article
>>>> >>>> or
>>>> >>>> >>>> the pdf? I'd love to read it.
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> The reason why its frequently mentioned/used within the Hedge
>>>> Fund
>>>> >>>> >>>> industry is due to how rapidly HFs change, as can be seen in
>>>> the
>>>> >>>> >>>> quant
>>>> >>>> >>>> meltdown of 2007 (In three days, you could've made R1 turn
>>>> into
>>>> >>>> >>>> R500,
>>>> >>>> >>>> if
>>>> >>>> >>>> you were at the right place at the right time). Testing for
>>>> >>>> >>>> adaption
>>>> >>>> >>>> here
>>>> >>>> >>>> is extremely interesting, and saves you years of work. HFs is
>>>> also
>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> >>>> canary in the coal mine in world of finance.
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> You are spot on with the over-fitting issue. :-) I corrected
>>>> this
>>>> >>>> >>>> when
>>>> >>>> >>>> I
>>>> >>>> >>>> implemented mine. When using fundamental analysis, they'd
>>>> >>>> >>>> implement
>>>> >>>> >>>> like,
>>>> >>>> >>>> 15 different fundamental metrics, of which maybe 4 or 5 have
>>>> any
>>>> >>>> >>>> statical
>>>> >>>> >>>> significance. In fact, certain researchers went to the extent
>>>> of
>>>> >>>> running
>>>> >>>> >>>> a
>>>> >>>> >>>> GA to select the variables for "best-fit" first... which is
>>>> akin
>>>> >>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>> >>>> data-mining in the sense that they are finding the best
>>>> variables
>>>> >>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> >>>> fit
>>>> >>>> >>>> with the given data BEFORE running the algorithm.
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> And yes, the evolutionary algorithm is trained using a
>>>> data-base
>>>> >>>> first,
>>>> >>>> >>>> before it goes live. Typically, the GA selects the variables
>>>> and
>>>> >>>> >>>> the
>>>> >>>> ANN
>>>> >>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> >>>> what does all the decision making. Having the computer decide
>>>> what
>>>> >>>> >>>> it
>>>> >>>> >>>> should do for both is unwise, or at least, I think so.
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> Like I said, you put garbage in, you going to get garbage out,
>>>> >>>> >>>> that
>>>> >>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> >>>> how it works with these black box machines, so yeah, people
>>>> have
>>>> >>>> >>>> used
>>>> >>>> >>>> GA's
>>>> >>>> >>>> before, but like we both mentioned, how you program it and I
>>>> would
>>>> >>>> >>>> is
>>>> >>>> >>>> totally different, which means it would learn differently,
>>>> just as
>>>> >>>> >>>> we
>>>> >>>> >>>> do.
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> You also mentioned "Buy-Low/Sell-High" when there are economic
>>>> >>>> >>>> shocks,
>>>> >>>> >>>> which is a great strategy, sure, but stock prices will adjust
>>>> >>>> >>>> accordingly
>>>> >>>> >>>> anyway, so while they may be cheaper than usual, they won't
>>>> >>>> necessarily
>>>> >>>> >>>> be
>>>> >>>> >>>> mispriced, which is what I'm interested in. I can't always
>>>> wait
>>>> >>>> >>>> for
>>>> >>>> >>>> some
>>>> >>>> >>>> kind of external economic movement to make money.
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> As you've said, I don't want to match the market at all,
>>>> else
>>>> >>>> >>>> I'd
>>>> >>>> >>>> go
>>>> >>>> >>>> passive. Stocks are priced at the value that the market
>>>> values it
>>>> >>>> >>>> at
>>>> >>>> >>>> and
>>>> >>>> >>>> those are often subjective prices, more often than not.If I
>>>> had a
>>>> >>>> basic
>>>> >>>> >>>> program to initiate buy/sell commands based on whether a stock
>>>> >>>> >>>> falls
>>>> >>>> >>>> below/above a certain price and expect it to earn money, I'd
>>>> be a
>>>> >>>> >>>> billionaire by now.
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>> >>>> >>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>> @GB
>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>> I did some reading up on using GA against the stock market.
>>>> It
>>>> >>>> >>>>> seems
>>>> >>>> >>>>> some Hedge Funds use them already, but most of these funds
>>>> are
>>>> >>>> already
>>>> >>>> >>>>> defunct (probably not because of the use of GAs though). Was
>>>> >>>> >>>>> that
>>>> >>>> >>>>> paper
>>>> >>>> >>>>> you mentioned by Peter Stone? It answers a lot of the
>>>> questions
>>>> >>>> >>>>> I
>>>> >>>> had.
>>>> >>>> >>>>> It
>>>> >>>> >>>>> seems the evolution of the ANN happens way before the data
>>>> is run
>>>> >>>> >>>>> on
>>>> >>>> >>>>> live
>>>> >>>> >>>>> data. Stock Market GAs also tend to suffer from
>>>> "over-fitting",
>>>> >>>> which
>>>> >>>> >>>>> is
>>>> >>>> >>>>> something I also mentioned. They try to adjust to past
>>>> >>>> >>>>> performance
>>>> >>>> in
>>>> >>>> >>>>> order to generate an expected result. However, most GAs
>>>> don't
>>>> >>>> >>>>> take
>>>> >>>> >>>>> into
>>>> >>>> >>>>> account random fluctuations in the result, so they fail
>>>> miserably
>>>> >>>> when
>>>> >>>> >>>>> they
>>>> >>>> >>>>> try to derive patterns from the data. The best they can do
>>>> is to
>>>> >>>> >>>>> try
>>>> >>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>> >>>>> match the curve, which of course is very bad.
>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Ilitirit Sama
>>>> >>>> >>>>> <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>> He needs to confirm the subscription. The link should be
>>>> at the
>>>> >>>> >>>>>> bottom of any of the admins' messages. Give me his email
>>>> >>>> >>>>>> address.
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 2:03 PM, lindsey kiviets
>>>> >>>> >>>>>> <lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>> >>>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> lol,
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> @ilitrit , gimme th fgc link again please.i added Hilton
>>>> myself
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> ,
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> it seems he is not added to the mails.
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 13:59:14 +0200
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [CPT-FGC] Re: Hi
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> *lol* Guys will just have to put their cellphones where I
>>>> can
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> see
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> em,
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> or else :P Scumbaggery at it's finest :P
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> I'm busy editing the vids. Will start uploading soon :)
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Ashraf Barendse <
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> ashraf.barendse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> The first rule of Random FG club is...
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>> Gohan is a charge character. I know this because LB knows
>>>> this.
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>
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